Driving Large Injectors With Wolf V4 Ecu

[Gareth87]

Hi all,

Getting the bits together for my E85 conversion but the biggest issue I am concerned about is my ECU. It's an old Wolf V4 and I want to run a 1400cc Ethanol injector.

http://scottyscustoms.com.au/product/1400cc-injectors/

Would like to know a few things.. I spoke to Wolf and they said the ecu should be able to run the injectors, however, they are high impedance and I currently run low impedance. Has anyone used high impedance injectors on this ECU before? Just want to be certain.

2nd.. Will these injectors be tunable down low for idle and low rpm?

3rd.. I run a single 044 now, will it be better to add a second 044 or upgrade to a bigger single pump? any ideas?

I'd like to upgrade the Wolf at some point soon but don't want to go through the hassle of it if I don't really need to.

Thanks for the help,

G

[scotty nm35]

These new matched 1400 sets idle and cruise fine Gareth, most tuners will be sceptical initially, as they would rather the tried and tested Bosch ev14's, but you will find these tune perfectly using the supplied dead time chart, as long as the Wolf can drive them. You may be able to add a resistor if the ecu really needs a low impedance load (but I doubt it), perhaps check the Wolf forums if a Google search falls through?

How much power are you hoping to make? A single e85 Walbro is hard to pass on, cheap and it will flow 450 odd kw on ethanol, unless you have a surge tank? If so a Fuelab or similar pwm controlled turbine pump may be the answer imo, to combat the fuel heating issue on ethanol especially.

Not sure there is a top feed rail available for the FJ, I am told they sometimes machine the injector tops down and make hose tails to suit the stock setup, otherwise a custom rail may be required for either11/14mm.

[Gareth87]

Hey Scott,

Yeah, just trying to get as much info before I go ahead with the fuel system upgrade. If I can run the injectors by just effectively 'plug and play' then that would be great.

Haven't found anything on google yet about anyone running high imp injectors on a Wolf V4.

I hope to make around 500 rear wheel HP. (I make 400 @17psi now on 98) so with boost up and e85 I hope that's realistic.

I run a surge tank so I will look into bigger single external pumps.. Are twin 044s a good cost effective option?

Fuel rail I have found a pre fab kit online.

Any continued info would be awesome, thanks for the input!

G

[chiksluvit]

I've read that the 044s are not e85 compatible, and bosch reckons you can only get something like 500 hrs out of it

in saying that there are lots of people that run e85 with the 044, so was that just a myth or?

[Gareth87]

That would be good to know.. can anyone else comment on this?

[Ben C34]

What he said.

The 044 was designed before e85.

[scotty nm35]

I wouldn't run two 044's, not without some method of warning if one fails.

[XRATED]

I'm driving a set of ID1000's with a wolf 3D V4 plug in. It's ok for a drift car but struggles a bit to controll them nicely at idle/ low rpm part throttle.

If it's a road car, it would be hard to go past a haltech plug in/PS 1000/2000 to controll them nicely.

Cheers

J.

[Dasmbo]

Hi has my car running with a wolf ver 4 plugin ecu with 660cc injectors it was not tuned by a shop but I had problems with idle and partial throttle so I changed the settings and minor change to the injector wiring for semi sequential and the car idled much better and didn't have lots of soot coming from the exhaust but as I say it has never been tuned drop me you email and I will send you the info if you like

[Dose Pipe Sutututu]

how's the software like? never played with a Wolf 3D - but it can't be that bad right?

I've tuned a few adaptronic semi sequential ECUs and they idle like stock with lean AFRs and none of this hard to start, stuttering business.

[scotty nm35]

As long as the injectors are fired in the correct order it should run fine in pairs. If you pair the wrong injectors it will sound very lumpy down low, as they are just spraying onto the back of the valve.

[Gareth87]

Thanks for the replies everyone. I think I'll just have to suck it and see.

I'm a little concerned about the wolf driving high impedance injectors however. What happens if the ecu can't run them? Will it cause an issue or fault in the ecu? I have no experience in this department..

[Simon-S14]

044's are fine with e85, ive been running them for years with zero issues on e85. 040 however does not like it and will fail early.

Throw the wolf in the bin, even a Nistune would do a better job at running it

[boostn0199]

Same as above 044;on e85 3 years so far no problem. Might be lift pump filter issues that are giving some people issues.

[STATUS]

I'm driving a set of ID1000's with a wolf 3D V4 plug in. It's ok for a drift car but struggles a bit to controll them nicely at idle/ low rpm part throttle.

If it's a road car, it would be hard to go past a haltech plug in/PS 1000/2000 to controll them nicely.

Cheers

J.

its more of an ecu thing. The injectors are fine. There are hundreds of ecus on the market and wolf is still the only ecu we refuse to touch.