GODTHRILA

Dan! Take me now, in the anoooss!

a mid race shower sounds like a great idea... i would estimate that buy around 19-20min in to the race the jolly green wang pump team will have built a solid enough lead to pit for a shower break... if the lead isn't solid enough we will just use the pump on it! i can't foresee us wearing a clutch 3 times in a row... the only thing being worn will be our pimp hands on your cheak, when we slap you for not earning your keep... "now back to yo corna biatch... bring me sum paper"

as maka reported, the dust has been blown off the green wang pump and i just tested it out... shes a beut! looking at the total lack of trash talking happening here, i can see there is a total lack of team honor and that can only spell TGWP dominance. Mike... youll need to drop more than 20kg of that super structure to make any difference... i think i saw the making of mike on the discovery channel "engineering marvels" Bard... i know you can drive... but... with poor team selection, one can only challenge your decision making skills so clearly your mind wont be there on race day Paul... now your a dad you will likely have a baby seat strapped to the back of your kart and a "baby on board" sticker so i expect to pass you on a regular basis as you chug around the track at "school zone speed" taking notes of hoon drivers to complain about Tom... just crash Scott McKickass

I seem to remember someone we both know setting a few off in the brook about a year ago! Suburban fireworks FTW!

Hey peeps, Of course this topic by no means reflects that SAUWA users are shady, black market crims... but if anyone knows any of the aformentioned people that have or can obtain firworks before Thursday next week then let me know. Nothing crazy spec that will be visible from space... just some basic rockets is all thats required. I would strongly recomend you don't post names or numbers or anything identifyable on here to keep everything happy and safe... just PM me if you have info and I can give you a call. Peace out! Scotty

glad to see bubba agrees to thrush testing

Mate I think you have gone completely off track here. For starters pilots are obviously much more responsible than P platers, they are in constant radio check with a control tower who is monitoring them the entire time they are in the air. And when you look at the amount of cars on the roads Vs the amount of planes in the air the numbers will always be in favor of more road deaths than air crash deaths. I think everyone in here will agree that a car in the hands of an idiot is a recipe for disaster. That goes without saying. You can sit here posting comments about brickies carrying out brain surgery and people running around with guns, but it is of no relavence to the topic at hand.

Go back and read the post again... the 5 points I made there had no link with becoming a pilot what so ever, but was indicating that P platers have just gone through 6+ months of gradual driver training.

The arguement isn't that they can't drive or that they are the only ones that "hoon". The case is that they are looking at ways to reduce accidents and road deaths which when you "grow some f*king eyes" and look at the statistics, the larger percentile is made up of young drivers with not much driving experience. Thats what it comes down to... you don't see motorbike guys jumping straight onto a 1300cc hyabusa, pilots jumping straight into an Airbus 380 or F-22, or if you want to talk cars... no one gets a cams license and jumps straight into V8 supercars? It's experience and progression into something that the individual is both realistically and responsibly ready for... not what their ego says they are ready for. If you look at the WA licensing system as a whole (meaning all classes), you will see that there is already a progreesion system in place for different types of vehicles... check out the link... http://www.dpi.wa.gov.au/licensing/yourlicence/1369.asp It's showing right there that different class vehicles require different license levels due to the experience needed to drive each particular vehicle. Experience, Experience, Experience... need it be said anymore.

You guys can't be serious??? Does the name Sophie Delezio ring any bells to you? Wasn't a hoon driver but my point being that if during this "natural selection" they run into a childcare centre and take out a few kids I guess that is just... um... natural selection as well huh!?!?

The fact that they have obtained a license in the first place shows they have (under the current system) gone through: 1) A 30 question multiple choice theory test 2) Some kind of supervised driving leading in preperation for further testing (its mentioned that 100-120 hours is something to aim for) 3) A practical driving test with a licensing examiner 4) Log book driving for 6 months with a minimum of 25 hours driving across various conditions 5) A hazard perception test That is a pretty intense education program... especially considering back when I got my license, all I had to do was 30 multiple choice questions for L's and then a practicle test for P's... there was no minimum requirement for supervised driving. Think about 17y/o kids that have just spent the last 6+ months being "educated" in correct driving technique. Do you honestly think a 1-2 day course of them locking up breaks, sliding over cones, spinning through wet areas in a controlled environment is going to alter their point of view as to how "hard" they drive? The ones that do this for the right reasons are generally the ones that you don't need to worry about on the roads anyway. The others (like me many years ago) just think that a driver training course made them a better driver... more in control in out-of-control situations. Basically it has the potential to make the cocky even cockier and in effect making matter worse than improving them. Having said that, I am all for driver training as the more time you can spend having someone show you how to handle a car, the better equipped you are should you get into trouble. I just don't see this as a solution, as driver training has been available for years and years and although not compulsory, as mentioned above, new drivers have just been through 6+ months of training so it still should be fresh in their minds what is the right thing to do. No amount of driver training will make an idiot driver a safe driver.

The question that everyone should be asking is "why would the government (which ever party) want to bring this to law?"... The answer is simple... they want to lower accidents and hopefully lower road deaths. Its common knowledge that the vast majority or accidents (fatal or non-fatal) are involving young male drivers. Now this isn't taking into account what kind of car they are driving it is simply a statistic showing that that particular demographic is either far more careless or just very unlucky... the most likely is careless. So how do you stop or reduce this particular demographic from being so careless? - You obviously can't have a cop, government official, parent, etc. watching each individual everytime they get behind the wheel, - You can't trust each individual to just "do the right thing"... if you could there would be a very different statistic in that demographic, - You can't tell them they can't get a licence until they are 25, because the reality is that they need transport for work and socail freedom The only fair thing left is to limit their cars in an atempt to reduce the careless driving. This limit would mean lack of power meaning slower acceleration and slower max speeds. Also it usually goes hand-in-hand that smaller power cars (4 cyl) are generally much smaller in size, making them less of a handfull to control and manuver at speed, should they still decide to push the envelope. I am not blind to the fact that a 4 cyl car is just as much a deadly weapon as a V6, V8, turbo or supercharged car, but as I mentioned above what are the other alternatives? I am also sure that the politicians are not blind to the fact that even with this law in place, there is still total idiots out there that will cause accidents with power limited cars, and people will die as a concequence... the aim is to reduce this to the absolute minimum P platers are in essence new drivers and although they have passed theory and practicle tests... nothing beats common sense and hands on experience. The fact is that new drivers (or drivers still learning through experience) should be eased into the world of piloting a leathal weapon... not handed something that is too much for them to handle and offers too much temptation to be careless. "The only thing needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing"... a very fitting quote for this topic. The good men (well as good as a politician can get!!!) could sit back and do nothing, but how will that help things? It simply wouldn't, and road accidents and deaths would continue to increase. Bringing this into law may not be the right answer, but at least something is being done which is always better than nothing when it comes to saving lives. Anyone in here that is against this becoming law, take a second and just think of your closest family member/friend. Now ask yourself if you would trade their life for an extra few cylinders, a turbo or a blower? If your answer is yes then I suggest you take a good hard look at yourself.

Just voted for the 2 hour race. I have a maths equation for this... 1hr=1 blown clutch 2hr=X blown clutch what is X? Team Green Wang Pump (without a blown clutch) FTMF2HRW

Do you mean the wall?!?

Scratch that idea... I think it's just the luck of the draw. All these karts would be maintained as they break to keep costs down, but if it was your own kart you would probably regularly replace things so they don't break mid race. I think if you went regularly you would eventually get to spend some time in the pits... it's just one of those things. But there is no way I'm going to risk kart#11 again... so far my pits time has been almost 30 laps over 2 races