Karl never look at that when we are out on an evening like that ???,i think that 20 litre`s may be more ??,rev`s never under 4,500/5000,so it goes through a bit but, you we`er with front boy`s & they we`er quick,the wrx hurt going up to martin he had no idear on the road which i do use often,2nd/3rd got work out,need some sway bar`s would make it alot better,see you sunday.