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There is some pretty shit comments in here LOL mostly from kuntz who A) never built a similar set up or B) Never worked on one. LOL as the hobby turbo maker commenting on EFR9180's over speeding and "exploding" We run them regularly over the catalogue speed ratings but as the engineers at BW told me you need to know what you are doing, but there is a decent over speed margin on them. The issue you will have is the 3.2lt engine, the map/tip ratio will be problematic and it will adversely effect the power on the 1.05AR, which we have run. If you go a 1.45 the response on the in line 6 cylinder will be garbage which is not the fault of the turbo its more a function of the firing order and packaging problems in the Datsun shitbox. Feel free to email me if you want some real knowledge on this rather than forum guesses and paragraphs of BS from pretenders

There is a new alternative to the others mentioned here that will be released soon, been working on it for a while now. I've done a bit on water injection as have many others > an external link for people interested in some of the details below its worth a read I think as it covers some of the control methods and hardware details not commonly known or discussed. https://www.syvecs.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=499&sid=7033ba860615fc3cf3a7de23768d620d&start=40

You know Elon Muskrat has won a contract with the Lebanese space agency to make a special Uranus probe lander mission using emotionaltron ECU and GTST body shell with special hiflow fitted with EFR black series internals using all the hypothesis off this forum, he was saying the key is the independent staged drive by wire and keeping the turbo on the small side cause when you do a hektik launch everyone knows that its area under the curve that is important when going to Uranus

I've been doing traction control before most of you could walk lol. You missed the point actually you dont get any of it I think as you are not an engine person nor someone who drives properly on track or road? just guessing there cause I cant really work out other than you wanting to type to read back your own posts what is the point. You have two experienced people telling you why a wrong (smaller) turbo is inferior yet you keep on about doing it the ghetto way and not addressing any points. I get it if you want to go slower and stress the engine more, other than that don't really get what you are on about honestly.

Can't beat a 13B turbo

No it is not exactly the same, you are taking me out of context, I realize its a forum and everyone thinks their opinion is worthwhile but its actually useless cause if you take note I replied to the OP who brought it up and he shared his real world track experience and I have same experience personally and through end users. Too small a turbo is a massive mistake on a track car end of story. It is similar to adding traction control, this does not solve issue of lack of grip, the TC cant make more grip it can only let you use closer to the limit of what your car has. Too small a turbo cant be made to have more power than it can deliver, so the DBW comment was just a pointless bit of dibble put up to make someone feel good about themselves NOT to understand the point of the OP's post....... just another reason why forums are forums in the main part.

The DBW does nothing but mask the problem, it is still totally pointless restricting the engine when you actually need the power, the DBW cant magically 'add' power. And this is why its important to use the right turbo, way too many people get hung up on the modern bullshit as a panacea for bad fundamental choices, a loss is a loss, too small a turbo gives power where its useless and not enough where its needed, simple.

EFR did ok today at Eastern Creek in Sports Sedans, put the boat anchors in their place

^ So many people just don't get this, it's a well known fact that too small a turbo while nice for a dyno sheet saying "look kuntz here is superior spool low down power" it is totally shit for applying power after apex to corner exit.

Thanks Rob, We are going to slap on one of these 8374 Full Race kits to a built 2.2 on EVOX, not going for internet records just increase the specific power while keeping some response, will let you know how it goes

Thanks for that oh be careful with those type of flex joints, customer of mine had one fail in his car a few weeks ago they collapse in on them selves to about 1/2 the normal diameter under sustained load at high heat.

what boost pressure? did you have at peak '600awhp' power

With a Life Racing based ECU and correct set up that engine would have run properly LOL........ Regardless goes to show what a superior power train config can manage, we run a 2zz 1.8lt engine on EFR at same level of peak power but with far broader power range, similar vehicular constraints, and I can confirm it makes lesser packages look 'compromised' when you look at the performance potential.

As I was saying a while back 'drifting' is pretty under utilized (stress wise) compared to what we do, but interesting to see it first hand here below...

Good old Klaus, I was them when it was first started, I personally got sick of all of the problems associated with supporting the use of those. They are A grade 24k gold plated turd.