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Sydneykid Grand Master

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i've heard the r32 front suspension is pretty average for double wishbone

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep, it's so bad that the R32GTR ruled the Group A circuit racing worldwide so much so that they changed the rules.

:P cheers :D

Roy Grand Master

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Not as a 4wd Group A car it didnt...did it?

Perhaps the wishbones arent the greatest ever deisgn i dont know...but any road car is goign to have compromised arm lengths, pick up points etc etc...surely they are still better then McPherson struts (Mind you , plenty of capabel cars are using struts)

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i would say they had a very specific reason for doing it realted to the cars purpose. saying that it's better than 32 GTR gear is a bit hard to do without specifying "better at what.....?"

and yes, fatz is on drugs. why bring up his personal life here?

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lick my bum lol

I had enough trouble getting it up in the first place.

seems in drift skylines run into understeering problems fairly frequently

enough to ruin tandem runs and have the judges give the other guy the win

I'd say this "s13" setup is trying to fix the problem aswell as other things Im not smart enough to work out.

s13 understeering Ive seen in drift vids is like 1 for every 5 skylines(and not that many skylines drift in the vids Ive seen)

hopefully this mod will help Tezuka(?) win a few rounds in D1

looks like he's already doing ok in the street class

Gts-t Grand Master

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lick my bum lol

I had enough trouble getting it up in the first place.

seems in drift skylines run into understeering problems fairly frequently

enough to ruin tandem runs and have the judges give the other guy the win

I'd say this "s13" setup is trying to fix the problem aswell as other things Im not smart enough to work out.

s13 understeering Ive seen in drift vids is like 1 for every 5 skylines(and not that many skylines drift in the vids Ive seen)

hopefully this mod will help Tezuka(?) win a few rounds in D1

looks like he's already doing ok in the street class

Skylines understeer due to the great lump of cast iron Rb up the front. Just like your cefiro :)

The blitz 4 door r34 seems to be doing pretty well with its double wishbone :D

Refer above to what Sk said if there is any confusion :)

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"Skylines understeer due to the great lump of cast iron Rb up the front. Just like your cefiro

The blitz 4 door r34 seems to be doing pretty well with its double wishbone

Refer above to what Sk said if there is any confusion "

hmmm dont have a ceffy as sig says I have 32 4 door cef is the bosses car

blitz 34 seems to have shallow slide entry angle's to offset understeering.... trust me Ive watched a lot of option vids

Im not confused justs looks like double wish is not really suit to slides I think sk was refer to it just being a good setup not that it is great for slides

see number of skylines not in D1 or BM or any other drift series

Sydneykid Grand Master

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blitz 34 seems to have shallow slide entry angle's to offset understeering.... trust me Ive watched a lot of option vids

Im not confused justs looks like double wish is not really suit to slides I think sk was refer to it just being a good setup not that it is great for slides

see number of skylines not in D1 or BM or any other drift series

There is a lot of experience in Japanese drift circles with macpherson strut front suspension cars, courtesy of the huge number of AE86's and S13/14/15's over the years. Understandably the drift teams feel more comfortable tuning a strut front suspension.

The reality is I can duplicate the dynamic camber change angles of an S13/14/15 whilst still retaining the R232/33/34 double wishbone suspension. I can also duplicate the roll centres and bump steer characteristics. Consequently the handling ("slide" if you prefer) would be the same, given equal other dynamics, mostly C of G and weight. But this is not simple to do, it takes some time to engineer and fabricate the necessary components.

My guess is they took the easy way out, used mostly off the shelf S13/14/15 parts, maybe just to test the theory. If it works, they may well revert back to double wishbone with duplicate dynamic change angles engineered in.

:( cheers :)

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