hi guys,

i have just written off my 1998 celica after some clown failed to stop at a roundabout and slammed into my left side at 70km/h. I have been planning to get something else for the past year cause i just started getting sick of the power, or lack there of, of the celica. Dont get me wrong they're a great sports car and extremely reliable (I thrashed that thing so f*@ken bad), but i just got over it. Great for a first car tho.

So after the accident the first thing i did when i got back from the hospital was get on carsales.com and start lookin for a new car.

My budget is around $27k. My first thoughts were supra. I have admired these beasts of a car since i was 12. Luv the looks, luv the power and torque especially (very important), but nowadays they're just so old!! most examples in aus are atleast 12 years old with plenty of kays. i have also neva been in one. All my knowledge for them has come from mates, mags and the net.

My otha option is an R34 GTT. After i took a ride in my mates one, i fell in love. It had a nismo b/kit, full exhaust and the rest was stock but i still loved the power, the response, the looks and interior of the thing. they're both at a similar price but with the supra its a much older car with much more kays.

What would you guys do?

Insurance isn't a problem.

cheers

Rob.

Wait till you sit inside a supra, and then see if you can handle the interia, very aroplane like :S go to a import yard drive both more back room in a skyline as well. It's all preference.

just realised ive posted this thing in the wrong place. sorry guys.

thanx for your response dude, that airplane analogy has really got me thinkin.

where is there an import yard in sydney?

Edited June 20, 200620 yr by fireupgaz

Personally I don't like Supras, yes you can run about 300rwkw through the stock drive train, but still its old, interior is ugly..

I'll take the R34 GT-T anyday of the week.... !!

i wont have any $$$ for mods. probably an exhaust at most, if it doesn't already have one

u can buy a newly built 32gtr for 27g on these forums...come to think of it theres 2 of them...

Yeah R34 has my vote, theres heeps of import yards in sydney, i think it's parramatter road, just park your car at one end and walk from one end to the other after seeing 50 or so skylines and 50 or so supras, see which on eyou get sick of first.

But serioulsy the airoplane analogy is very much.......... a relastic thing :S

Michael

get an R32 GTR

Supra all the way. Shape is over 10 years old and still looks better than most modern cars. Plus 400+ kw from stock internals is nothing to sneeze at.

He doesn't want a 16 year old car so he's not gonna want a r32 gtr.

Man that shits me he stated he didn't want a really old car which r32 gtr's are. The same thing happens to me cos i got a r34 GT-t over a 32 GTR. I'll take my 7 year old car over a 16 year old car anyday.

Get a 34. They are absolutely fantastic. Look the best interior is quite nice (little on the cheap side) go well, stop, turn, and all that beautifully, but go drive one first.

Good luck, let us know how it all pans out.

drive gtr and you wont go back

but yeah i guess if u dont want a 16yr old car u could maybe get a 33 gtr?.. saw a few for the 28k-30k mark recently

32GTR FTW

Look at us R32 GTR owners, plugging the life out of them

He doesn't want a 16 year old car so he's not gonna want a r32 gtr.

Man that shits me he stated he didn't want a really old car which r32 gtr's are. The same thing happens to me cos i got a r34 GT-t over a 32 GTR. I'll take my 7 year old car over a 16 year old car anyday.

Get a 34. They are absolutely fantastic. Look the best interior is quite nice (little on the cheap side) go well, stop, turn, and all that beautifully, but go drive one first.

Good luck, let us know how it all pans out.

thanx for clearing that up champ.

i know where they're coming from, the R32 GTR is a classic, but i actually wanna keep this car for a while and don't wanna be spending $$$ on repairs, rebuilds, etc. and i dont want the faded paint, worn interior and everything else you get for a 16 yr old car.

I think R34 looks the goods at the moment but everytime i go for a test drive at a dealership they pretty much tell me I cant unless I literally put a deposit on the thing. I guess cause im only 23 they think im just there for a joy ride. bastards

Edited June 20, 200620 yr by fireupgaz

i loved supras.. drove both skyline and supra.. and i already own my second R34 @ 20 years old

Its like this:

Toyota Supra

SZ - non turbo

168kw, roughly 284 nM torque, 4sp auto or 5sp/6sp man, 3.0 straight 6

RZ - twin turbo

206kw, roughly 410 nM torque, 4sp auto/6spd man, 3.0 straight 6 with sequential twin turbo

Nissan Skyline R33

GTS

140kw, about 240 nM torque, 4spd auto/5spd manual, 2.5 straight 6

GTS-T

187kw, about 295 nM torque, 4spd auto/5spd manual, 2.5 straight 6 Turbo

GTR

206kw, about 375 nM torque, 5spd manual, 2.6 straight 6 twin turbo (Edited - i copied pasted before, was too lazy lol)

Nissan Skyline R34

GTT

206kw, about 340 nM torque, 4spd auto/5spd manual, 2.5 straight 6 Turbo

Ok, so the R33 gts/R34 gt is out - no turbo - but still looks great though. So its out of the others. for 27,000 u can get a r33 gtr from people like j-spec or all blitz etc. But you run the risk of getting a car that could be 10+ years old (if you are lucky, u can get a 96/97 gtr for that price). R33 GTS-T Series 2 are going for about 16 or 17 grand now - the other 10,000 could be used for mods if need be. R34s are going from 24k to over 30K.

Supra non turbos - the 1998 models I have seen on prestigemotorsport for under 20,000 (importing straight from japan after u paid them 1000 buying fee). Twin turbos are going for about 23k (again from importing straight).

When I was hunting for a suitable car - it was out of the NA supra, and the R33 GTS-T. Drove the supra first - very smooth, very fast, very responsive. Steering was precise. Gear changes were smooth. 2JZ performed flawlessly when going at high speeds.

When you are in it, you feel like you are flying for the RAAF - thats the interior. Its very jet figher like. One thing I didnt like was the leatherette seats at the back, cos the cloth seats were really comfy - dont know why they put the leatherette in the back. Oh, and if u got friends - forget it, u can only carry one person (even though it says its a 2+2 seater). And if you want to get jiggy with your woman, better hope she drives a commodore or a falcon.

Next I drove the skyline. First thing I noticed is the space - got friends - no problem, u can carry 4 of them (including u as the driver). Getting a bit steamy after a hot date - no problem, plenty of back seat space for you to do the whole 'titanic' style fogged up windows thang .

The car I test drove, had very minor mods - pod and aftermarket dump/front pipe and cat - all i can say was "holy f**k!! Sh*t!!! F**k!!!!!!!". The rb25det loves to rev - and doesnt stop until you let go. Seats are very supportive - infact they are fantastic! Oh, and you got Hicas, which does come in handy from time to time (the supra doesnt). The other factor is that, the turbo makes a huge difference in the enjoyment of the car. And, pretty much, once u have been in a turbo or driven a turbo, u cant go back to a normal car. I expect, that after going for that drive in your friends R34 - you would not even consider the supra, unless you are going for the TT.

My advice is to test drive the R33 series 2 GTS-T, R33 Series 2 GTR, and the R34 GTT. If you want to put mods, then R33 GTS-T might be the way to go. Chances are you will want to do mods within 5 or 6 months after you buy it - cos thats what im doing now .

Also with insurance, I found that the insurance for a 1995 NA supra and a 1996 R33 Series 2 GTS-T is pretty much the same - the skyline is about $50 more for me. Well worth the extra $50, as you are literally paying hte same purchase price for both cars.

Good luck

hi guys,

i have just written off my 1998 celica after some clown failed to stop at a roundabout and slammed into my left side at 70km/h. I have been planning to get something else for the past year cause i just started getting sick of the power, or lack there of, of the celica. Dont get me wrong they're a great sports car and extremely reliable (I thrashed that thing so f*@ken bad), but i just got over it. Great for a first car tho.

So after the accident the first thing i did when i got back from the hospital was get on carsales.com and start lookin for a new car.

My budget is around $27k. My first thoughts were supra. I have admired these beasts of a car since i was 12. Luv the looks, luv the power and torque especially (very important), but nowadays they're just so old!! most examples in aus are atleast 12 years old with plenty of kays. i have also neva been in one. All my knowledge for them has come from mates, mags and the net.

My otha option is an R34 GTT. After i took a ride in my mates one, i fell in love. It had a nismo b/kit, full exhaust and the rest was stock but i still loved the power, the response, the looks and interior of the thing. they're both at a similar price but with the supra its a much older car with much more kays.

What would you guys do?

Insurance isn't a problem.

cheers

Rob.

Edited June 21, 200620 yr by emsta2003

Also you could turn up to a cruise and ask a couple of people to take you for a quick drive.

R34 GTT - 206kW? is that right?

R34 GTT - 206kW? is that right?

My brother has moved up from a '97 Celica to a '95 RZ Supra and loves it. Emsta2003's right about the leatherette seat in the back (it's also on the roof in my brother's car) and the lack of space for people in the back; with me sitting in the passenger seat and someone behind me, they were squished up against the seat and rear window and my knees were up under my chin just about! Not comfortable at all, but the Celica in my opinion doesn't have much rear space either so it doesn't bother him!

R34 GTT - 206kW? is that right?

Yeah and since when is an r33 gtr's engine 2.5 lt??

But as for the car selection, you could get a very nice r32 gtr (maybe 93, 94 model) which is only 12 years old and with the kind of money your talking, if you looked around you should find one in very good condition i would think, if it doesnt have many mods it should be pretty reliable if u service it regularly.. but if you are really concerned about a cars age more than its performance then thats fair enuf.. to each his own

just remember r32 gtr 0-100km/h in 4.7secs and 0-400m in 13.0secs .... i know what i would choose, but thats most likely a biased response, lol

Edited June 21, 200620 yr by r32line