How Many Of You Have Licked The Stick?

[nuclear_skyline]

Hiya All,

Was driving home the other day into Picton and I was pulled over for a RBT... I went out fine and my mate in the car behind me was flagged in... Next thing I know is he is pulled over in front of the RBT station (I crapped myself thinking he got done for DUI).

Turns out the copper asked him to lick his stick! HEHEHE.,.... They have a new test for Pot, apparantly you lick a stick and they can test it to see if you've been smoking pot...!!??!?!?!?! What the? Good idea I think but i've never heard of it!

Anyone know how it works? or had experience licking sticks?

[Sl!m]

it's nothing new. and its really unreliable.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/alcoh...idetesting.html

[nuclear_skyline]

How long has it been in effect for? First time I have ever heard of it happening... There was something in the media about 6-12 months ago, but i never took any real notice as it didnt seem to be occuring a lot? what are they tagging them? RDTs?

[mesmerized]

i thought they had to have their drug testing van to do those tests , and that they only have 3 vans in the whole of nsw

[malcolm]

i thought they had to have their drug testing van to do those tests , and that they only have 3 vans in the whole of nsw

Hi there

Heres the low down :

Random Drug Tests

* Drug Driving

* DUI Driving Drug

* Prescribed Illicit Drug

Division 3A of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999 was inserted and became effective on 15 December, 2006 and gave police power to carry out "Oral Fluid Testing" of drivers for the purpose of testing for the presence of illicit drugs. Such test is carried out at the roadside by police where the driver is required to lick the test pad of the preliminary testing device in order to detect the presence of a prescribed illicit drug. If this test proves "positive" the driver will be required to undergo a second screening test in a police drug testing support vehicle at the scene. If this second DUI test proves positive, the driver will be prohibited from driving for 24 hours and the remaining oral fluid sample from the second test will then be sent off to the Government Analytical Laboratory for analysis. If that result comes back positive, then the driver can expect a Court Attendance Notice to attend court and be prosecuted.

The definition of illicit drugs simply means cannabis, speed, base, ice (amphetamine),ecstasy and can be any combination of these.

Section 18B(1) of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999 permits police to require a driver to undergo one or more oral fluid tests for prescribed illicit drugs.

Section 18B(2) creates an offence for a driver to "refuse or fail to undergo the oral fluid test in accordance with the directions of the officer".

It is an offence if an illicit drug is detected as being present (see Driving with the presence of prescribed illicit drugs) and police can arrest and take the person to a police station or other prescribed premises in order to carry out the necessary tests on the person, whether it be obtaining a further oral sample for analysis (s.18D) or sample of urine or blood.

If a blood or urine test discloses the presence of Heroin / Cocaine, then this legislation also provides for prosecuting for the presence of these drugs also.

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Pretty much covers the lot !!

So if you dont mind the odd "bucket bong" "joint" "line" "snort" "tab" "pinger" "cap" "bomb" "chase" "hit" or "shot" !!

Not a good idea if youre also in command of the odd couple of hundred kilowatts at the rear wheels !

Cheers malcolm

[Haysey]

do the sensible thing everyone....

trip balls, peak off your face, smack out, chew your face off, get the munchies in the back of a taxi!

[JAS-25T]

bahahaa I have literally seen someone chew their face off.

anyway, I think this is a great idea. Anyone that has not got 100% concentration on the task at hand (driving) should not be on the roads.

[Abo Bob]

The definition of illicit drugs simply means cannabis, speed, base, ice (amphetamine),ecstasy and can be any combination of these.

Cannabis, speed, speed, speed, mostly speed, but let's not forget speeding. Kills more people than Atilla the Hun!

[mesmerized]

Hi there

Heres the low down :

Random Drug Tests

* Drug Driving

* DUI Driving Drug

* Prescribed Illicit Drug

Division 3A of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999 was inserted and became effective on 15 December, 2006 and gave police power to carry out "Oral Fluid Testing" of drivers for the purpose of testing for the presence of illicit drugs. Such test is carried out at the roadside by police where the driver is required to lick the test pad of the preliminary testing device in order to detect the presence of a prescribed illicit drug. If this test proves "positive" the driver will be required to undergo a second screening test in a police drug testing support vehicle at the scene. If this second DUI test proves positive, the driver will be prohibited from driving for 24 hours and the remaining oral fluid sample from the second test will then be sent off to the Government Analytical Laboratory for analysis. If that result comes back positive, then the driver can expect a Court Attendance Notice to attend court and be prosecuted.

The definition of illicit drugs simply means cannabis, speed, base, ice (amphetamine),ecstasy and can be any combination of these.

Section 18B(1) of the Road Transport (Safety and Traffic Management) Act 1999 permits police to require a driver to undergo one or more oral fluid tests for prescribed illicit drugs.

Section 18B(2) creates an offence for a driver to "refuse or fail to undergo the oral fluid test in accordance with the directions of the officer".

It is an offence if an illicit drug is detected as being present (see Driving with the presence of prescribed illicit drugs) and police can arrest and take the person to a police station or other prescribed premises in order to carry out the necessary tests on the person, whether it be obtaining a further oral sample for analysis (s.18D) or sample of urine or blood.

If a blood or urine test discloses the presence of Heroin / Cocaine, then this legislation also provides for prosecuting for the presence of these drugs also.

**************************************************

Pretty much covers the lot !!

So if you dont mind the odd "bucket bong" "joint" "line" "snort" "tab" "pinger" "cap" "bomb" "chase" "hit" or "shot" !!

Not a good idea if youre also in command of the odd couple of hundred kilowatts at the rear wheels !

Cheers malcolm

so what that's saying is any cop car can do the lipstick test, but the results has to be confirmed by either the drug support van (of which i'm pretty sure there's only 3 in nsw) or be taken to the nearest police station/facility for a second fluid/blood/urine test, correct?

it also IMO leaves a fair bit of a grey area. what about passive smoke? what about drink spiking or someone claiming they're drink was spiked? when does the law decide when your sober?

btw i don't do drugs and drive. i'm already paranoid enough as it is about being pulled over for driving a modified vehicle. i'm just amazed it took so long for the cops to introduce these tests.

[jenkies]

do the sensible thing everyone....

trip balls, peak off your face, smack out, chew your face off, get the munchies in the back of a taxi!

well said!! adelaide is usually behind on all this sorta stuff but we have stations set up specifically for drug testing(well it is adelaide hahah) any time anywhere... like were talking 9:00 am on a wednesday... who the hell is wake and baking on a wednesday.. let alone mungin their face off

[Y2K2]

This is taken from the link that sl!m provided

Driving with the presence of cocaine or morphine (heroin)

There is also an offence of driving with the presence of cocaine or morphine (heroin) in blood or urine (unless the morphine was taken for medicinal purposes).

WTF so it is "ok" to be smacked out behind the wheel as long as it is for medical purposes

dumb dumb

[Abo Bob]

When I was discharged from hospital recently I was told not to drive both times. Morphine make pain go away.

[ChrisCross]

When I was discharged from hospital recently I was told not to drive both times. Morphine make pain go away.

yep +1...but then again I wasn't really able to drive at that stage anyways.

[FATAZZ]

So it's ok to drive while on methadone?

[Noobs for Life]

Anyone that has not got 100% concentration on the task at hand (driving) should not be on the roads.

Taking drugs doesn't mean you won't have 100% concentration, otherwise it seems like a lot of drivers must b on something, just look around at how bad some people drive

It seems most people with imports drive a lot better than the general public, i have more near misses with stock standard anythings that imports

[-FIGJAM-]

ive been tested twice cause i have a problem with my eyes n shit. 1st time i hadnt touched anythin and i got done, had a blood test and got off, second time i was off chops and got off.... i think that says it all

[nuclear_skyline]

ive been tested twice cause i have a problem with my eyes n shit. 1st time i hadnt touched anythin and i got done, had a blood test and got off, second time i was off chops and got off.... i think that says it all

Well you've just increased everyones respect for you... Admitting to driving under the influence of drugs aye?

I think the testing is a great idea, much in the same way a RBT is a good idea. As long as it doesnt turn into a random defect bay for us, I think it can only do good things for society.

[Jack-]

it's nothing new. and its really unreliable.

http://www.rta.nsw.gov.au/roadsafety/alcoh...idetesting.html

Yeah apparently it can pick up cannabis thats been in your system for weeks... scary.

[-FIGJAM-]

I was only saying that it isnt all that accurate, i know it isnt the smartes thing to drive when your stoned, but how many people here have driven home drunk before? Dont judge me when you dont know me, cause im sure your not perfect behind the wheel.

[nuclear_skyline]

The fact that the test isnt accurate not what I was saying. Dont know anyting about that, but i'm sure its not.

Driving home stoned or drunk aint a smart idea, its dangerous. I'm not a saint behind the wheel, and never claimed to be one. Do i speed in school zones? Hell no, kids can dart out in an instant. Do i do 120km/hr on the highway, sure i do...

Do i drive home drunk, or under the influence of anything other drug? Hell no, because it impairs judgement, and maybe then i would do something un-saint-like and cause someone injury, well at least the chance of it happening increases...

Like anything though, you pay your money you take your chances.