P-plate Laws and Recent crash

[Sonic speed]

Hey all. Does anyone know with the new laws what is going on with p-platers and the demerits?

I was told (by a police officer) that if you lose your license on you p-plates you have to start all the way back at the start, as in do everything again, even your log book. Is this right? As Ive been also told that all you have to do is the theory test and hazard test again.

So whats the deal? Also something about a gradual demerit system?

[NA_Goodness]

All I know of is the Green and Red P's, and the 0 aclohol limit

How is making them redo the test help??? We've done it once, we can do it again!!

[showbizz]

true that.. was on my Ps lost license while on them completely had to redo Ls comp test,log book,then do the driving test.So yes what he said was right.

[br3ndan]

Yep, if your one ur p plates, and u use all ur points.. you have to start again from the start... they pretty much cancel it.

If your not on ur P plates, it simply gets suspended... meaning once you reach the date, you can jump back in your car and start driving again without having to do anything.

[gersfan]

How many Demerit Points do we get? I hear 4, 6, 8, 12. Get a different answer everytime.

[charlie22]

hmmm. i got told we get 4 points to play with, but im not 100%. i still have mine so thats all that counts i guess

[inthisglass]

you can get all the info on the dpi website

you still have 12 points

if you loose your licence on your p's you get to do it all over again

[bubba]

It's always been the case that if you get a suspension while on your P's your license gets cancelled. I am from the pre-logbook era and I lost my license the first time, 3 weeks before I was sposed to come off my P's. Had to resit my L's and practical driving tests.

[Sonic speed]

So say you got done doing say for example 100 in a 60 zone, but they didn't actually get the speed due to the fact there was no radar. So would it just go to court I guess and then what would happen? If found guilty? found not guilty? What would you think the decision would be and the punishment if any?

[bubba]

If they didn't get a speed reading then they can't do you for speeding unless you admitted to it.

[Sonic speed]

What if they say that you admitted to it, but you really didnt?

[NA_Goodness]

I got done like that, but I wont go into specifics obviously. They couldnt do anything, so they let me off with a warning... I love that cop!!

[Sonic speed]

But they took you to court right?

[R34P3R]

so you got caught speeding and they have no proof right??

[Sonic speed]

It wasnt me that go caught speeding, someone i know. When asked what evidence there was she said that it would be her visual observation and her notes that she took down. Then he got the summons in the mail saying he was doing 100kph in a 60 going onto 70 zone.

[s2k12]

With the demerits, we have 12, but I have a very reliable source that says in a few months we'll only have 4 to play with.

[Sonic speed]

So if you have 12 now right? Does that mean if you lost say 3 when that new law comes into effect you only have one?

[s2k12]

Pretty much. And you're f**ked if you lose more than 4 and are still on P's before the law comes in too.

[Magic]

a month or so ago I got done doing in excess of 140 in a 100 zone. me and 6 others actually, all at the same time. and same case as yours. estimated according to the cops speedo and no radar gun.

I called a few of my cop friends to see if what they did was legal. Apparantly they are allowed to. the patrol car speedo does get calibrated every so often (how often..who knows). Both my cop friends said there it's very possible of winning the court battle in these cases, but never guaranteed.. unless of course there was only one police officer in the car and present there..then its 99%. It was my first infringement with nearly 2 years of driving so we all paid the fine ($700 and 5 demerits). 2 of my friends lost their license from it. One was a p plater so I could ask him the next time i see him about what's going on with his.

The reason I paid mine as I said it was my first fine ever and court+lawyer fees would equate to around $700. If you want to take it to court you have to write a letter requesting the matter be disputed in court. (this is for the fine). If not you will have 28 days to pay the fine and thats also the timeframe to send that letter in. I'd dispute it in court if I was losing my license over it.

Sean do you mean if you lose more than 4 points.. or have 4 points remaining? LOSING 4 in total is very harsh.. and isn't good for me..

Edited July 25, 2008 by Magic

[s2k12]

Ok, just had clarification, it's actually only 4 for the first year of P's, not both years:

First year of P's: 4 points.

Second year of P's: 8 points.

Then 12 obviously.