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I don't think you'll be disappointed with the DMS 50s. can't wait to see the pics. what was the ball park on cost for the DMS, install, set-up?

Small change from $4k..Pics'll be up as soon as I have 'em.

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Small change from $4k..Pics'll be up as soon as I have 'em.

money well spent I'd say. considering for what you get, good quality, 50mm DMS, install, alignment etc. that is pretty fair money for good suspension.

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Well it's all done and I've driven my 30kms home and can report that the ride is excellent, and it all feels rather civilised. I hadn't realised how much the old harsh ride put me off driving it. I got the compression backed off one click from the original setting and it it kinda what I'd hoped for now. I think it's set up very soft compared to what is possible, so should be very adjustable from here. Just got to figure out how do-able that is from home. Ill post up the alignment sheet, but they maxed the front camber at 1.5 as the adjustable arms would allow no more........The rear was at 1.75 and this was the minimum due to the ride height. 340mm rear 345mm front. Looks tough as guts and rides really well. Great combo. I'm flat out at work next week and off for a month after that so not sure how much I'm going to be able to figure how the handling has been improved (if at all).

All in all it's kinda like you sent your girlfriend to Swiss Finishing School and she got a boob job on the way back. It's what you already know and love, but somehow better, more refined and it kind of re-invigorates your relationship.....

Photos, specs and more waffling drive reports coming soon.

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Alignment specs attached. Disappointing that the front couldn't get more neg camber. Thrust angle and SAI results apparently mean my car is very straight - good news.

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What did you hust type...still thinking about girls getting boob jobs :)

Good to see you are happy with the outcome, nothing is worse then spending coin and not being happy with the result. Now doubt the DMS will perform well

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my only advise is swap that .5mm toe in on the front for 1mm toe out. and enjoy. ;) and if you like a 'pointy' car with razor sharp turn in may it 1.5mm toe out each side front and 0 toe rear (or leave it with the 1mm in it has now for a bit more stability).

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my only advise is swap that .5mm toe in on the front for 1mm toe out. and enjoy. ;) and if you like a 'pointy' car with razor sharp turn in may it 1.5mm toe out each side front and 0 toe rear (or leave it with the 1mm in it has now for a bit more stability).

Given I've just got it back I'll settle in with it how it is and then perhaps change the settings later and get to feel the difference. It's good to learn as you go and I reckon if I did it now I'd miss the feel of the change. I'll come back to your suggestions in a couple of months. Thanks.

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Camber looks fine for the street, I run almost -3 but I'm not worried about tyre wear. From memory the conventional wisdom is around -3 for the track. Do you have adjustable front uppers..bushes?

I dig the way you R looks now, sleeper R....nice

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Camber looks fine for the street, I run almost -3 but I'm not worried about tyre wear. From memory the convention wisdom is around -3 for the track. Do you have adjustable front uppers..bushes?

I dig the way you R looks now, sleeper R....nice

Why thank you ;) .

I do have adjustable upper arms which makes me wonder why they cannot get more adjustment from them. I don't care about tyre wear either and before the alignment we agreed -2mm front, so we all wanted more but apparently couldn't get it. The people who supplied me them originally are different to the guys who've just done the work. Not sure I'd go back there.......I wonder where the issue lays?

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Why thank you :/ .

I do have adjustable upper arms which makes me wonder why they cannot get more adjustment from them. I don't care about tyre wear either and before the alignment we agreed -2mm front, so we all wanted more but apparently couldn't get it. The people who supplied me them originally are different to the guys who've just done the work. Not sure I'd go back there.......I wonder where the issue lays?

The length of the upper arms will constrain the amount of neg camber you can get. Stock length is 182mm, the Whiteline kit is approx =/- 6mm. Usually this gives two and a little bit degrees of neg camber. If you want much more (ie three to four degrees) you need to think of numbers in the 160 - 170mm range for upper arm length but it also depends markedly on your ride height, your upper mounting brackets, lower control arms & castor settings.

Also remember that the more castor you wind in the less camber you end up with. Usually I just set the castor so the wheel is centred in the arch.

Any chance of a photo of the spring/shock units themselves?

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The length of the upper arms will constrain the amount of neg camber you can get. Stock length is 182mm, the Whiteline kit is approx =/- 6mm. Usually this gives two and a little bit degrees of neg camber. If you want much more (ie three to four degrees) you need to think of numbers in the 160 - 170mm range for upper arm length but it also depends markedly on your ride height, your upper mounting brackets, lower control arms & castor settings.

Also remember that the more castor you wind in the less camber you end up with. Usually I just set the castor so the wheel is centred in the arch.

Any chance of a photo of the spring/shock units themselves?

why don't you like to wind in lots of positive castor? :D

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The length of the upper arms will constrain the amount of neg camber you can get. Stock length is 182mm, the Whiteline kit is approx =/- 6mm. Usually this gives two and a little bit degrees of neg camber. If you want much more (ie three to four degrees) you need to think of numbers in the 160 - 170mm range for upper arm length but it also depends markedly on your ride height, your upper mounting brackets, lower control arms & castor settings.

Also remember that the more castor you wind in the less camber you end up with. Usually I just set the castor so the wheel is centred in the arch.

Any chance of a photo of the spring/shock units themselves?

Yeah, good point, they've taken the shots, and I've asked a couple of times now, and they say they're going to send them. When I get them I'll post them up.

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