R34 Traction Control Mods

[Proximity Motorsport]

Hey guys,

I have a mate who has an r34 GTT 4 door auto with Traction Control. He has asked me to fit a highmount turbo and greddy plenum and fab his intercooler piping. He has already purchased a greddy plenum, but was told from a shop he was going to goto the you can't retain the traction control with a forward facing plenum. I had a quick look at his car today, and saw how big the throttle body / tc unit is, so I can understand why it won't fit, but I was thinking, maybe you could just cut the TC part of the throttle body out, and if I have to, weld a 2.5" hose tail to one side if there isnt enough room, and extend the wires, and fit the traction control butterfly in the inner guard or something?

If he can't keep the TC he doesn't want to fit the plenum, but I really want to put it on, as I hate the clutter of factory plenums. Has anyone ever toyed with this idea? Anything you can see going wrong with it?

Thanks

[krzysiu]

He won't do it if it gets rid of tc? Lol wut. Every person I know with r34 tc drives with it off. All the time.

Tell him to make his foot the traction control. Ie don't flat foot it in the wet and you won't need traction contol.

The reason that it would remove the tc is that the tc backs off the revs and won't let the car go. If you change the throttle body with a different one it won't work

[Proximity Motorsport]

Yeah I know exactly what your saying.. But he wants it, and it's not my car, so I cant tell him what to do. But not sure if you understand what I'm saying. The throttle body and TC unit is one piece, with two butterflies, and the TC has a control unit with motor... and I'm thinking of cutting it in half, so the TC unit is alone with its butterfly, control unit and motor, and plumb it into the cooler pipes in the inner guard, and just want to know if it will still effectively work.

[R31Nismoid]

Well tell him to go and pay someone else to do the work.

Obviously you are doing @ cheaper - gotta be harsh sometimes to people who don't think, you're doing him a favour as with a bigher turbo there is NO promise that TC will work correctly and not have an absolute fit 99% of the time as more power/less traction - and a bit of wheelspin will actually make it faster than TC totally shutting down the car

[zoidbergmerc]

Yeah I know exactly what your saying.. But he wants it, and it's not my car, so I cant tell him what to do. But not sure if you understand what I'm saying. The throttle body and TC unit is one piece, with two butterflies, and the TC has a control unit with motor... and I'm thinking of cutting it in half, so the TC unit is alone with its butterfly, control unit and motor, and plumb it into the cooler pipes in the inner guard, and just want to know if it will still effectively work.

Your theory sounds good, put it into practice and let us know how you go

[wasnt me]

I remember reading some where that it has been done before and worked...

but as nismoid said traction control is useless when you start making a decent amount of power

leave it out imo...

[bubba]

The OP suggestion will work in theory.

Also, I believe it was urtwhistle, modified his TC butterfly (shaved it down so that when it closed, it wouldn't fully close the opening) to allow a bit more power through when it kicked in, allows him to chirp 2nd pretty well now with TC enabled, instead of completely dying in the ass.

[Chris32]

Bit of a thread mine, but thought I'd add to this rather than create a new thread.

When the traction control is engaged, does it do anything with the engine management (pull timing etc) or just close the butterfly?

Has anyone drilled some holes in the butterfly or modified it to make the effects less noticeable but still retain some traction? I like the idea of it, but the effects are a bit harsh

[GTSBoy]

Just closes the TC throttle (AFAIK).

See post above yours for example of someone modding the butterfly.

[BLKYLO]

I wouldnt bother.

When i got my car imported two years ago, it was kicking sideways with traction control ON. Of course they took all the parts off it when they complied it -.- , but still, TC will be next to useless with anything close to 200 kw atw.

[jay-rod]

Really you guys are telling fibs

My car with 350 at the wheels still has TC.
I love having TC on when i dont want to die in the wet....

It works...not as well as stock...but it works.....

[34GeeTeeTee]

Really you guys are telling fibs

My car with 350 at the wheels still has TC.

I love having TC on when i dont want to die in the wet....

It works...not as well as stock...but it works.....

My car has plenty of power and the TC removed, no issues driving in the wet...

[Hanaldo]

Yeh I have this handy thing attached to my leg, right at the bottom there. Useful little thing commonly referred to as a 'foot'. The right one is pretty effective for keeping me alive, when it's wet I simply choose to not be an idiot.

TC can suck it.

[34GeeTeeTee]

Yeh I have this handy thing attached to my leg, right at the bottom there. Useful little thing commonly referred to as a 'foot'. The right one is pretty effective for keeping me alive, when it's wet I simply choose to not be an idiot.

TC can suck it.

Haha

[eXquiSit]

any more details on your set up jay?

Really you guys are telling fibs

My car with 350 at the wheels still has TC.
I love having TC on when i dont want to die in the wet....

It works...not as well as stock...but it works.....

[Stixbnr32]

Remove TC its for idiots.

[lcxu105]

You might find that the engine will go into limp mode shutting down the injectors with the sensor missing. Just had this problem with mine. Had to use stager with deleted TC. Also you can remove the butterfly from the TC as I had done prior to fitting my greeddy manifold.

[MagicMikeZ32]

Remove TC its for idiots.

Exactly why it should stay in this case.

[GTSBoy]

Nistune makes it possible to ignore TCS faults.

[eXquiSit]

so is anyone running a ffp with standard tb and tc?