Water Damaged Rb25

[dannyb]

hi all, recently in all this rain we have had i stupidly ended up sinking my r33 resulting in the engine sucking water and stalling. Insurance decided not to rebuild the engine just to repair. Since picking up the car its been blowing oil out the exhaust, getting heaps of oil out of the breather (never happened before), dropping oil pressure randomly, and there is a massive tick on acceleration (sounds like a vw bug). i sent it back to get repaired again but i think they are just going to dodgey it up again.

what im after is some advice on the bare minium things everyone thinks should be changed since every mechanic ive spoke to says it shouldv'e been a full rebuild in the first place, so i can't understand why it only had an oil change and flush and the a/c pump replaced.

thanks

[abr33]

Did the engine definately suck water?

Probably busted rings or bent rods possibly blown head gasket.. get a leakdown and compression test done. Its possible to have twisted your crank too if its hydraulic locked with water. unfortunately the shit doesnt compress. the oil sounds a bit odd. Blowing smoke?

[hypergear]

Remember water does not compress like air. its possible engine has bent conrods, or valves.

[PN-Mad]

One of those insurance companier with lifetime warrenty on repairs? Sounds like you should read the PDS, phone em up to see if they'll cover your repaired motor, and then once satisfied they'll cover it, blow that shit up and get a new motor from them.

Should never have been flushed and put back on the road with a knock coming from it. Thats just unprofessional work as an assessor IMO.

[ima_slap_joO]

Well I'm guessing since they touched the engine at all it must have been covered, if the engine is not performing as it should give your insurance company a call and explain it, also have a look at your policy and see exactly whats covered and how. In the meantime call ACCC and explain what is going on, they will let you know what your rights are based on your policy. Surprised it is running at all, like trying to compress concrete.

[dannyb]

engine defintly sucked water pulled the intake off and was full of water and went back and checked it the next day and there was heaps of water in the oil. Didn't hydro lock car coughed and splutted and died then i had to start it again as it all happened on a corner down a hill so had to start it and drive up the street after nearly getting cleaned up by a truck (just cars don't do tows of a night). yer it blows smoke not much at idle but heaps when driving.

The car is insured with just cars i've spoke to them and they have said theres a life time warrenty on repairs so it should get fixed i just want a ruff idea of what should be done because im not picking it up this time until everything is done (they didnt even replace the airfilter the first time). I don't want to try and screw them for a new engine ill just be happy with the car in the same condition as before the water.

[dannyb]

Well I'm guessing since they touched the engine at all it must have been covered, if the engine is not performing as it should give your insurance company a call and explain it, also have a look at your policy and see exactly whats covered and how. In the meantime call ACCC and explain what is going on, they will let you know what your rights are based on your policy. Surprised it is running at all, like trying to compress concrete.

yer i think ill have to give the accc a call just incase. The misses dad owns a panel shop and he can't belive the condition the car is in and how unproffesional they have been.

Its the last time i pick up a car in a rush without leaving enough time to check it out

[Bsa]

If you pop it then they have to rebuild it by the sounds it's not far off

[lilcrash]

Cracked pistons, bent rods, bent crank, brocken rings. Any or all of the above.

[DVS JEZ]

If u pop it they may call it driver abuse. Get it fixed first

[JonnoHR31]

Surprised it is running at all, like trying to compress concrete.

Actually concrete would compress easier than water.

OP, find out exactly is wrong with the motor first and go from there.

[Gerg_R31]

get a leakdown and compression test done

This plus oil pressure test

then post up results and we can go from there

[Birds]

Sif repair a pool skimmer RB...they are that cheap the insurance company should have whacked a second handy in.

[Nee-san]

engine defintly sucked water pulled the intake off and was full of water and went back and checked it the next day and there was heaps of water in the oil. Didn't hydro lock car coughed and splutted and died then i had to start it again as it all happened on a corner down a hill so had to start it and drive up the street after nearly getting cleaned up by a truck (just cars don't do tows of a night). yer it blows smoke not much at idle but heaps when driving.

The car is insured with just cars i've spoke to them and they have said theres a life time warrenty on repairs so it should get fixed i just want a ruff idea of what should be done because im not picking it up this time until everything is done (they didnt even replace the airfilter the first time). I don't want to try and screw them for a new engine ill just be happy with the car in the same condition as before the water.

No mate, you pay your premiums, they OWE you a complete and proper service.

You don't "want" to get a new engine out of them, you NEED to.

I would not be happy with anything less.

[Risking]

Your not entitled to a new engine.

You entitled to an engine of the same condition as the one which was damaged.

You'd also find it's probably not the insurance companies fault it wasn't repaired Properly to begin with.

The repairer usually submits a quote to properly repair the vehicle. The assesor clarifies the repairers quote and decideds how the repairs procede (you paid out or the vehicle repaired etc)

Authority is given to the repairer then it's repaired and just cars are invoiced.

Sounds as though the repairer has had a lend of the insurance company at your expense.....

[Adriano]

What was the situation when it happened. A gtst with an rb30 i built went into flood water at about 2000rpm with a front mount. The water stalled the motor by flooding it with fuel, as the water hit the AFM first and no damage was done to the motor.

[dannyb]

hopefully all sorted i was contacted by the workshop today and they have offered to buy the car off me for more or less my insurance write off price so they dont have to warrent any more repairs. thanks guys for all the info.

p.s if anyone knows of a 32 33 for around 10k thats not on the for sale thread let me know

[meat axe]

Good to see you got a good result. Its really crap that the work shop tried to get away with what they did. Personally I would make an official complaint to the insurance company as I am sure they won't want to have to deal with a POS work shop again

[DVS JEZ]

So they wanna buy the car off u instead of buying a 2nd hand 1500$ motor?

What was the write off price?