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Chris Rogers

V36 Nav And Language Swap - Faq

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On 3/22/2019 at 12:03 AM, The Max said:

Much easier than that. As the NUC output is converted to composite, it'll feed the auxiliary input of the infotainment system, as per your first sentence.

As for the touch overlay, I've decided not to bother with a switch. I'm just going to permanently connect it to the USB converter for the NUC (based on Microchip's discontinued AR1100 IC).

Now I actually have a driver for a screen (ar1100 based off memory) and touch interface board for another project at work but reprogramming the board to suit the v36 screen is a big learning curve for me.

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What are you programming that interface into? It should just appear as a regular HID/mouse.

If you're using it in a Windows environment, you will need the appropriate UPD drivers which give you the ability to tailor how it performs (as in if it's just x,y or x,y and left click simultaneously, etc). They were free up until a certain version but I'm not home yet to tell you what that version is.

I'm sure I have them on file and can share them on Dropbox if need be.

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23 minutes ago, The Max said:

What are you programming that interface into? It should just appear as a regular HID/mouse.

If you're using it in a Windows environment, you will need the appropriate UPD drivers which give you the ability to tailor how it performs (as in if it's just x,y or x,y and left click simultaneously, etc). They were free up until a certain version but I'm not home yet to tell you what that version is.

I'm sure I have them on file and can share them on Dropbox if need be.

I had thought that the driver for the screen (not the touch as I have the windows software to calibrate the touch panel) needed to be programmed for the screen that attaches to it... 

But I think I'm just being silly as you're using the aux input so no screen driver is needed. Hmm let's blame that on waking up too early on a Saturday. 

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47 minutes ago, The Max said:

What are you programming that interface into? It should just appear as a regular HID/mouse.

If you're using it in a Windows environment, you will need the appropriate UPD drivers which give you the ability to tailor how it performs (as in if it's just x,y or x,y and left click simultaneously, etc). They were free up until a certain version but I'm not home yet to tell you what that version is.

I'm sure I have them on file and can share them on Dropbox if need be.

How hard was it to connect the v36 touch panel to your usb touch board? Is the ribbon cable hard to get to?

Does the touch panel have a fairly standard 4 wire 1mm pitch FPC cable so most ar1100 boards j at work? 

I'm now contemplating an android box plus external gps and the ar1100 for touch. Then installing an app that makes it possible to use the box like an android auto head unit, or just using it android unit.. Perhaps adding an external mic for Google assistant.

It won't really suit split screen on the small screen like the phoenix screen does but I think it'll tick a lot of other boxes for me at a fraction of the cost. 

So thanks for getting me thinking about this option 

 

Edited by Pete_Repeat

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Haven't had the chance to get that far yet but based on a previous situation, it seemed pretty easy to access.

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touch panel is 4 wire resistive. split the screen and grab the header. its spat out of the coms lines in serial format if you want to play there.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Chris Rogers said:

touch panel is 4 wire resistive. split the screen and grab the header. its spat out of the coms lines in serial format if you want to play there.

 

 

Thanks Chris. That's great to know 

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tony has it btw. ( I no longer do this for a living.)

 

all the CHEAP $5 ideas won't work on the JDM version. been saying for years to no avail.
get custom OR get teh controller out of a USDM version IDENTICAL in features to yours. from there its a software reload ex NZ and you are set. naturally this works on the later 2011 versions and NOT the earlier ones as they are a different unit.

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On 2/17/2018 at 5:21 AM, Wogboy said:

if you are refering to chris rogers, he has moved back to the U.S.A.

 

exactly and I do not do this for a living any more.

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26 minutes ago, Chris Rogers said:

tony has it btw. ( I no longer do this for a living.)

 

all the CHEAP $5 ideas won't work on the JDM version. been saying for years to no avail.
get custom OR get teh controller out of a USDM version IDENTICAL in features to yours. from there its a software reload ex NZ and you are set. naturally this works on the later 2011 versions and NOT the earlier ones as they are a different unit.

So you're saying something like below will or won't work? It's 4 wire resistive so was hoping (ar1100 based). I have something similar at work already but as I've have never pulled the dash apart I'm wanting to have some degree of confidence before I pull it apart that I have a possible solution waiting. 

http://vi.raptor.ebaydesc.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemDescV4&item=163582810627&category=42889&pm=1&ds=0&t=1553895682862&cspheader=1&oversion=efed4d47

 

I already have the video input. Currently using wireless display from android. But will likely move to a dedicated Android box in the car if the touch may work.

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proper video on those is GVIF (sony CXB1458 from memory) but yes , if you have a way to get 5 points of reference it will work fine.

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Hmm so now the difficulty. This is more for other people's info and to help me think it through... But happy for feedback still, as I may have missed something.

Do I stay using the aux in for video but move to dedicated box and take over the touch panel with the ar1100 based board. Run it all into the centre console. Would be the cheapest option (other than the screen mirroring of my phone that I'm alresdy doing). I guess it's about $200 of bits (android box + gps + ar1100 + 5V 3A power + external mic). It's not a great screen in my 2009 but it's ok for a car. Still a single point resistive touch, however some apps can simulate pinch to zoom but not in full. Unlikely to need pinch to zoom in the car anyway. Could look into external mic for google assistant. I can't see Bluetooth in my car for the past few weeks so I suspect hands free will be missing from this option. Also this could be a bit of effort to get right.

Or now Phoenix are saying a 30 day money back policy.. Which I believe will cover their system if it doesn't work as hoped. I will need to return in new condition however. This ticks a lot of boxes for me... If it works. I want android. I want a larger screen. This is still a tempting job expect for the following. Concerns the screen isn't too viewable in sunlight. Concerns the relatively low res for the bigger screen isn't great pic. Although reports seem to say the screen is decent... Concerns that it doesn't function as expected so there is a lot of effort wasted time. Then the concern that phoenix make the return difficult. Plus the cost is around $750. But it ticks all my boxes if it comes off. 

Reason android is such a strong thing for me is that it will tie in with home automation running on tasker + home assistant + ifttt. So the gates can be opened from a widget on the car screen. I can automate my hotspot to turn on automatically and use Google music and maps on the car which is a big thing for me. I can get my calls and text to show on an android screen reliably. Plus naughty things like emails etc. And video when parked only of course.

 

Or stick with screen mirroring wirelessly when I put my phone in the 3d printed wireless charge dock and rely on voice to get things happening, with some automation based on location and time of day.. By far the cheapest as I have it running already. But it's been like this for a bit now so it's nothing exciting. It takes its toll on the phone I would imagine as it gets quite warm even though my custom wireless charger dock has fans on it. If I wasn't wireless charging heat isn't as big a problem but that's not as sexy as just dropping the phone in the dock. 

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look into the chipset I gave you. if you can fidn somethihng that spits out HDMI or similar then you can get evaluation kits for these chips.

 

that wil give you the full resolution you are looking for.

the other option is with Grom Audio and their Vlink system. in your case you would look at 2011 on for the digital screen

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Thanks Chris. I've had a look. That's option 3 for an Android option. Seems like about $AU850 for a system for a non-us nav system.

Might sit on it and think for a bit. Do things myself = cheap but effort which is best spent elsewhere at the moment. Buy the phoenix which works well for me with split screen and ability to change the launcher I believe but some element of risk. Buy the vlink system which is likely more reliable and less risky, but uses the low res screen in the 2009 plus its the most expensive but not by a lot.. I'll need to see the restrictions on the phoenix and the vtek system. As both are running android with a big skin change so customising might be limited on these systems. Hmm time to ponder 🤔

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On 9/2/2018 at 7:31 PM, DashyyPC said:

Okay hi and hello!

it is possible for a conversion Via Xanavi.
I've done this. Comes with complete unit with upgraded software and AUS maps.

Cost $1100 Shipped. It IS a stock unit replacement. Works perfectly fine.

http://xanavi.biz/


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07 Base model (with nav)
07 type S (with nav)

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Sorry but did u say we can order a English unit with full functionality for $1100 for the 36, 2007 models that came with factory nav? Its been a long night my brains not fully comprehending after all this reading. If so who installs it? Do voice calls work? And voice prompts , air cleaner ionizer?

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9 hours ago, Regan9415 said:

Sorry but did u say we can order a English unit with full functionality for $1100 for the 36, 2007 models that came with factory nav? Its been a long night my brains not fully comprehending after all this reading. If so who installs it? Do voice calls work? And voice prompts , air cleaner ionizer?

Hey Mate,

 

You can buy it for any v36. You can buy it with or without nav. They do support the 2 options.
Everything still works as is. its made by the company who made the original headunits so its literally plug and play. They supply everything. Only takes 1 hour to do if you havent done it before. Super simple.

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8 hours ago, DashyyPC said:

Hey Mate,

 

You can buy it for any v36. You can buy it with or without nav. They do support the 2 options.
Everything still works as is. its made by the company who made the original headunits so its literally plug and play. They supply everything. Only takes 1 hour to do if you havent done it before. Super simple.

Thanks mate. After reading all the drama n being so late it was hard for my brain to comprehend. Great to know we dont have to stick with the people keeping the other knowledge for financial gains.

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