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Kinks
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It's not the lack of free to air that has turned me off. Half the time I watch a recorded race anyway cos I don't fancy still being up at 1am and having to work the next day. It's not the Mercedes d

Roy
Roy

Wow...since the 2009 seasons F1 there has ony been 4 new race winners. Webber, Disco Dan, Pastor and Rosberg Outside of those new entries its been the same old Rubens, Vettel, Homo, Alonso, Button an

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so does anyone like the new Renault livery? I like it. although it is a bit plain http://www.f1fanatic.co.uk/2016/02/03/renault-reveals-rs16-in-black-livery/

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What a rookie error. Dan has a right to be pissed off about it.

On the positive side the motor appears to be competitive and it didn't blow up.

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handed to merc.

after a brilliant drive from Hamilton and Merc's risky strategy put Red Bull under pressure, causing them to crack...

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an internal communication fcuk up on tyres had nothing to do with pressure from merc.

he initial explanation from Red Bull was that it was a miscommunication between the race engineers and the crew.

“Unfortunately, a lot of misunderstanding and not the right communication,” Red Bull’s motorsport adviser Helmut Marko said immediately after the race.

“We will investigate and find out (what happened), but it was a human mistake. I feel really sorry (for Ricciardo). All we can do is apologise to him.”

The miscommunication boiled down to the team’s uncertainty over what tyres to use for the run home.

They had three compounds to choose from: Soft, Supersoft, or Ultrasoft.

The Ultrasofts were out; Red Bull’s engineers didn’t believe the new purple-sidewalled tyres would make it the 46 laps to the end.

Engineers were torn between the Soft and Supersoft. Initially, they went with a brand new set of Softs — the harder of the two choices — and instructed the mechanics to get those ready.

At the last second they changed their minds. Supersofts

what do you reckon caused that last minute change of mind if it wasn't Hamilton/Mercedes being so close and choosing the Ultrasoft???

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What changed their minds? Who knows. Perez was outpacing them on softs and Hamilton on ultrasofts in the end - so maybe they got the worst of all options from a compound selection that didn't make much of a difference.

Sounds like they just plain couldn't decide and screwed it up because the tyres weren't at hand.

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yeah i suppose that's possible - either they just changed their minds for no apparent reason other than blithering indecisiveness, or in response to the unfolding situation in the race.

tough choice! :P

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Perhaps Dan is going to have to start making 'suggestions' on race strategy and tyres, sounds like his engineer needs to look for another job if there is a lack of driver communication too. He needs to stay with RB though, a night on the piss should help calm his disappointment, obviously gutted.

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Horner said the decision to go for super-softs instead of softs was made after Mercedes surprised Red Bull by opting for the ultra-soft tyre.

There you go. Seemed reasonably obvious. Everyone was surprised at Mercedes decision to use the UltraSofts and wondering what they were up to. Next minute there's a mix up with tyres in the Red bull garage... simple case of 2+2 I would have thought = caught off guard by Mercedes.

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Wouldn't say it was pressure, they had a 13 second pitstop, so an extra 10 seconds there, and Dan came out 1 second behind. In other words, they had a lead of 8 seconds or so, so Dan must have really, really been tearing ass on the lap after Hamilton went in 8 second lead isn't that much pressure

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Dan was quicker for the majority of the dry phase of the race anyway until he seemed to give up a few laps from the end

Given the apparent pace of the new spec Renault engine combined with the RBR chassis and aero, I think Dan would have passed him if not for Monaco being Monaco.

I genuinely feel sorry for him, to lose a race like Monaco because of a stuff up outside his control, especially with how well he drove all weekend would be completely gutting

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