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Tao remember lag is lag, which is what the incorrect turbocharger will give you, don't look for excuses and blame the M35 engine and auto for your lag issues! We don't have any issues with the intense billet rs with lag or reliability... I'm sure current users can confirm that!Tuner advised my car has 17inch wheels which Scotty has 18 inches wheels with higher tyre profile. The wheel diameter makes the reading skewer to the left on a roller dyno, if I put a set of 20 inches on with high profile tyres, the results will be again different.
2ndly my convert doesn't lockup, what you are seeing there is partial throttle ramp before it comes to an lock then full throttle. Hence the differences on this car with free and locked converter on paper. Auto don't usually lock up on road driving, using an pulse locked converter, compare the unlocked runs of mine will give you an more accurate comparison. also notice 30kws differences at 70KM this is range where the auto uses mostly for road driving.
My car made peed of 291awkws @ 22psi, while Scotty makes 300awkws @ 30psi. That is not that much of a differences for 8psi boost, and there is no way I'm going to run 30psi on a stock car.
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As far as I know when ever we have had scottys car on the dyno he has only had the converter locked to help obtain accurate power figures... This is the dyno graph comparison for our Intense billet rs vs hypergears latest rev...??? Whatever. Very interesting spool and midrange comparisons.
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Ok as promised here is a video clip of my stagea with the link G4+ fury installed.
The car is completely standard other then 3" exhaust.
All ecu work by scotty and myself and dyno tuning performed by Chasers motorworks...
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Even though the results of the intense billet rs speak for them selves, and with it also being in scottys own personal car which has put it through its paces, it's had nothing but success.
P.S when we release its successor in the near future, it will end all debates ?
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Yes it is. It's also the way everything is configured to run together and how it all communicates.
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M35 stall test intense billet rs
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How would it go with standard ecu ?
This turbo is designed for the upper end power range, even though it will work well, we have a better option in mind for the stock ecu.
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Fisrt of all. I respect who evers work and efforts in developments of a new product. I certainly not calling any one lairs.
Because the shape of the curve appeared to be quite different to an earlier run I have seen and the comparison had identical ramp up shape down low. Hence my suspicion and questions.
Further researches will be conducted.
As I read your post " no the red line was not from the ss2 rev 2 it's just your turbo running longer dyno ramp" says you are calling me a liar! There was no suspecision, it was a outright accusation And also if you believe our turbo isn't more responsive and what not, let's just settle this by you coming for a drive!
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No, The red line was not from the a SS2 Rev 2, its just your turbo running longer dyno ramp.
You really have no idea when to stop do you tao? Calling myself, Scotty and cihan liars just goes to show the level you have stooped too. We have put in a huge amount of work into this development and I think it is very unprofessional for you to be making accusations without facts to back it up.
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That's a 3000rpm convertor?
No! I'm certain scottys car has the standard converter. He can confirm just to be sure.
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Too bad most of us already saw it.I don't blame him, it sounded like an admission of guilt.
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Here are the long awaited results of the intense billet rs... The dyno graph shows the intense billet rs (blue) vs Hypergear ss2 rev 2 (red) both running just under 30 psi on pump e85 with identical settings and dynoed within days of eachother.
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Here is the standard actuator travel test as requested... Travel identical as per the external spring.On the video you've uploaded earlier, I've noticed the right hand actuator has a spring hooked on to the base. Will you be able to repeat the test with that spring removed?
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The inlet track to the turbine is opened up all the way around. It even injects air under the turbine by about 40% Do you think this is why I have 20psi at 4700rpm and when running 25psi it goes from 25 at 4850 to 18psi at 6500..
Yes this is partially why I think you have lag issues, it is what's referred to as exhaust gas interference. The reason your boost is decreasing in higher rpm is due to the loss of efficiency through the interference.
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Here are the wastegate pics spoken about earlier.I was referring to a bigger disc vs OEM. Here is the porting on my Hypergear
ImageUploadedBySAU Community1448255230.174580.jpgImageUploadedBySAU Community1448255253.699418.jpgThe bigger problem with the M35 high flow is not boost creep but response.
Is this unit ball bearing?
I prefer the turbine style of the unit on the right in the video its a more efficient design. I expect it would make more average power over the unit on the left which looks similar specs to my Hypergear rev4. Lakes101 pic shows a different turbine again if I can see it correctly which is a good design(curved)
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Yes that's not a problem at all. I can repeat the test with a standard actuator. Will do so asap.On the video you've uploaded earlier, I've noticed the right hand actuator has a spring hooked on to the base. Will you be able to repeat the test with that spring removed?
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Lakes 101 has the same turbo as the left one in the video. I no this as we built 4 identical units. For those who couldn't tell, the other turbo in the video is the noisey Hypergear ss2 rev2. It is definetly not more efficient or responsive then the intense billet rs, should have some results tomorrow. As far as wastegate porting goes not very impressed by the porting on yours as he has ported through the inlet track of the turbine. And it isn't even matched to the flapper valve.
I was referring to a bigger disc vs OEM. Here is the porting on my Hypergear
ImageUploadedBySAU Community1448255230.174580.jpgImageUploadedBySAU Community1448255253.699418.jpgThe bigger problem with the M35 high flow is not boost creep but response.
Is this unit ball bearing?
I prefer the turbine style of the unit on the right in the video its a more efficient design. I expect it would make more average power over the unit on the left which looks similar specs to my Hypergear rev4. Lakes101 pic shows a different turbine again if I can see it correctly which is a good design(curved)
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Should help with the bigger diameter disc
The actual size of the disc on the intense billet rs is smaller then a certain turbo pictured next to it... It's in the disc placement and porting of it where the gains are. The actuator travel being the biggest gain. Also disc size means nothing if porting isn't done to suit. Pictures of porting will follow from both turbos to show a comparison.
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LEMU install has began...
Link engine management unit.
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So what's currently the best option??? Has there been any further development on the adaptronic? And which adaptronic is used? Obviously 1280 not the 420?
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Was it yourself scotty?
M35 Turbo Upgrade.
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