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I have spent plenty of time in Germany and Poland, the chances of getting a dry track depend on weather conditions which are good for a substantial part of the year.
A little bit harder around the ring though with its changes in elevation, or so ive heard. Its a bit like Bathurst.
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Two different quotes and two different interpretations.
Now if you believe that using cut slicks would enable the GTR into the 7:30 then your dreaming.
We shall see when the first production GTR actually tries to tackle the ring, whether or not its as fast as the CGT.
7:27.82 167.201 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F Clubsport, 641 PS/1230 kg7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 650 PS/1230 kg
7:32* -- 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg
7:32.18 - 164.071 km/h -- Porsche 997 GT2, 530 PS/ 1440 kg
7:32.44 163.911 km/h -- Porsche Carrera GT, 612 PS/ 1475 kg
7:33 --- 163.708 km/h -- Pagani Zonda F, 602 PS/ 1371 kg
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Those words were selected carefully from the true comment below. The above comment is false.
"Mizuno claimed a time of 7minutes 38 seconds, compared with 7:43 for a Porsche 911 GT3 and 7:32 for a Carrera GT, but he was anxious to point out that there had been "two wet patches on the circuit." Indeed, he mentioned the "wet patches" so many times that you wondered why Nissan simply hadn't waited for a dry day. Mizuno reckoned that a time of around 7:30 should have been possible in the dry, but that going much faster would have required hand-cut slicks, which isn't "real world." Bizarrely, Nissan admitted to having different test drivers for different lapping. While Chief Test Driver Toshio Suzuki operates in the 7:30-7:40 range, his right-hand man is a 7:40-7:50 man."
Link please
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Suspicion conformed..............
Direct from the GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno
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the three used in nurburgring aren't production persay, they're development cars.... which nissan tweaked and tuned to optimise the settings which would then theoretically be transposed onto the production cars... whether or not that happens is up to the manufacturer.
Exactly thats why some publications even go as far as buying/renting a showroom car just to test them. Even if they used the setting for production models, you have to remember that these three development cars have been tuned individually (unlike the cars that come straight off the production line).
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Look you mint not like what im saying and thats totally understandable, but that lap isn't how European publications time their laps. Even Jeremy Clarckson and Sabine (scary German chick) uses the bridge to gantry timing method.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg4a1rc4Xjk
Just by looking at the GTR video, you would clearly notice that the lap was incomplete.
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I cant believe no one has commented on this before. That was a total CON!!!
The Bridge to Gantry looks something like this
no compare the START/FINISH to the Nissan GTR
Sorry guys but the lap's not valid, even when you discount the fact that Nissan wasn't using a production car and an independent tester.
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The Veyron is fast But Not the Hardest Accelerating Production supercar of all time!. Please stand corrected!
Behold the RWD Koenigsegg CCX
Acceleration: 0-100 km/h (0–62 mph) 3.2 seconds
Top speed: 395+ km/h (242+ mph)
Standing quartermile: 9 seconds, end speed 235 km/h (146 mph)
Actually the fastest is the SSC Ultimate Aero TT.
The quickest in everything else including acceleration and stopping would be the Ultima GTR.
Both cars use a twin turbo Chev V8, so pretty basic engine. The SSC har over 1000hp which is important for top speed runs while the GTR has around 740hp.
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Yeah I called this section 2007 GT-R as that's what Nissan's been touting it as since announcing it in 2005. Most of the american sites call it the 2009 GT-R as that's when they'll be getting it.
Probably getting them in 2008 but is still regarded as a 2009 model year.
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Seems the top speed claim is just shy of 200mph based on the latest info floating about. the 11.7 1/4 mile isn't shabby either, makes for a good modification platform in terms of a starting point. I wonder if they are using the variable vane turbo technology on this one?
Those numbers are still pretty optimistic.
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does anyone know what they're top speed spec. is supposed to be?
Probably not much, aparently they have one of the worst Cd of any current sportscar......
From Autoweek
While the coefficient of drag is an impressive 0.27, more than almost any production car -
The current R34 looks to be a better buy with better looks and around the same performance as the new GTR.........well a 15 sec difference around the ring anyway.
Earlier, Mizuno-san (Nissan GTR engineer) had offered some lap times from the Nordschliefe for various cars driven by the German magazine SportAuto. Those times are driver-dependent, track-knowledge-dependent, weather-, traffic- and bunny-crossing-the-track dependent. But Mizuno suggested the GT-R could get anywhere from 7:44 on up, with most laps coming in between 7:55 and 7:58. So he suggested the GT-R's strong suit was that it offered "the best cost per lap time." For whatever that's worth.
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Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).
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Seems its a bit heavier than the 1740kg
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evidence of this please mr monaroCountry?
Those were from the "pre-order catalog scans"
The image is too small but the specs, price, equipment lists, and options list have already been listed up.
http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/20...e-who-cant.html
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- The chassis code is CBA-R35
- Weight is ~1590 kg/3500 lbs (other sources say 1740kg)
Other sources are correct!!!!!!
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As the title says, Looks like the GTR is on the right path to become the best/fastest car to roll off the production line!
Like we had any doubts...........
http://www.wheelsmag.com.au/News/New+GT-R+...e+showdown.html
I doubt it.
The new GTR will be a pig of a car weighing in at 1740kg, will only be available in automatic, and will come with run-flats as standard.
The hyped up times for the GTR is similar to the previous sub 8 minute time..........i.e. they were never proven and they were never official times.
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HSV GTS Magnetic Ride Control
From an owner
The shocks have the fluid filled with metalic particles and a current runs through the fluid, the current can be altered making the shocks firmer when needed. The track setting is always firmer. There are sensors in each shock that can adjust the settings, they read the cars steering, braking, cornering forces every 100th of a second and adjust the suspension accordingly.e.g. you hit the brakes, the front shocks get a current through them to firm them up, this stops the nose diving under brakes and reduces braking distances. Likewise you corner hard, the outside wheels are firmed up to stop body roll, you accelerate hard and the rear shocks are firmed up to stop the back dropping and the nose pionting up.
IMO the HSV setup is supperior to that of the Bose system. The main advantage of the MRC's found in HSV are costs (far cheaper) and packaging (far smaller). Top of the line ferrari's and Audi's TT along with Caddy's top of the line cars now use MRC.
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More of a reason to buy a toyota!!
Ummmmmm have you had a look at the recent class action suit against Toyota?
Yet again Toyota has been keeping problems under wraps, paying off irate customers outside of court and outside of media scrutiny.
Problem was one of these Toyota owner has gone out and exposed Toyota’s engine problems and their under the table hush money.
RESULT? Toyota was forced to compensate owners of Lexus and Toyota vehicles. The problem affects 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles with model years between 1997 and 2002. This sludge build-up problem according to experts was the result of bad engine design and can cause engines to die (requiring total engine replacements). This problem will cost Toyota Billions of dollars to rectify.
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go to http://ninemsn.video.msn.com
go to news and click on
1) Holden Commodore VE named Wheels Car of the Year
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2)Live: ACA presents the 2007 Wheels Car of the Year
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Holden VE Commodore Wheels car of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ACA The three finalists Video
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Yes and the world is flat...coz someone from the GMH publicity department says it's so.
Have a look @ the car and tell me they haven't followed the proven Holden formula of taking all the parts available from GM global modify as needed then stuff it into a body thats also stolen its form this time from the european opel of about 5 yrs ago. It's a hotchpotch caserole of commodore crap!!!
Ummmmm any other car currently share the same suspension, chassis, and many other components? Apart from the engine this commodore shares nothing with other GM cars.
Today’s Holden is nothing like Nissan which shares every components among its cheapest cars to its most expensive ones. Heck the new GTR has the same shape as the old 350Z and also the old Hyundai Tiburon.
Take off your Holden hate goggles.
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Well the VE's were benchmarked against the old BMW M5. According to many BMW owners the old BMW's were (dynamically) better than the current BMW's.
I wouldnt say better but it should be pretty close, maybe not comfort wise.
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911 Turbo Owners' View On Gtr Unofficial Time Of 7:38 At Nurburgring
in VR Series - R35 GTR, Juke-R
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Was that really a Porsche dedicated forum? It has a Australian developed Camaro at the top right hand side of the page.