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Was that really a Porsche dedicated forum? It has a Australian developed Camaro at the top right hand side of the page.

A little bit harder around the ring though with its changes in elevation, or so ive heard. Its a bit like Bathurst.

Two different quotes and two different interpretations. Now if you believe that using cut slicks would enable the GTR into the 7:30 then your dreaming. We shall see when the first production GTR actually tries to tackle the ring, whether or not its as fast as the CGT.

Link please

Suspicion conformed.............. Direct from the GTR chief engineer Kazutoshi Mizuno RE: TOKYO 2007: THE SKY'S THE LIMIT

Exactly thats why some publications even go as far as buying/renting a showroom car just to test them. Even if they used the setting for production models, you have to remember that these three development cars have been tuned individually (unlike the cars that come straight off the production line).

Look you mint not like what im saying and thats totally understandable, but that lap isn't how European publications time their laps. Even Jeremy Clarckson and Sabine (scary German chick) uses the bridge to gantry timing method. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lg4a1rc4Xjk Just by looking at the GTR video, you would clearly notice that the lap was incomplete.

I cant believe no one has commented on this before. That was a total CON!!! The Bridge to Gantry looks something like this no compare the START/FINISH to the Nissan GTR Sorry guys but the lap's not valid, even when you discount the fact that Nissan wasn't using a production car and an independent tester.

Actually the fastest is the SSC Ultimate Aero TT. The quickest in everything else including acceleration and stopping would be the Ultima GTR. Both cars use a twin turbo Chev V8, so pretty basic engine. The SSC har over 1000hp which is important for top speed runs while the GTR has around 740hp.

Probably getting them in 2008 but is still regarded as a 2009 model year.

Those numbers are still pretty optimistic.

Probably not much, aparently they have one of the worst Cd of any current sportscar...... From Autoweek

The current R34 looks to be a better buy with better looks and around the same performance as the new GTR.........well a 15 sec difference around the ring anyway. Earlier, Mizuno-san (Nissan GTR engineer) had offered some lap times from the Nordschliefe for various cars driven by the German magazine SportAuto. Those times are driver-dependent, track-knowledge-dependent, weather-, traffic- and bunny-crossing-the-track dependent. But Mizuno suggested the GT-R could get anywhere from 7:44 on up, with most laps coming in between 7:55 and 7:58. So he suggested the GT-R's strong suit was that it offered "the best cost per lap time." For whatever that's worth.

Allot of cars are changing into auto, straight line might be faster, but still recon that a manual would be better in a track with lots of corners...........this is coming from an auto driver :-).

Seems its a bit heavier than the 1740kg

Those were from the "pre-order catalog scans" The image is too small but the specs, price, equipment lists, and options list have already been listed up. http://rocketpunchautoblog.blogspot.com/20...e-who-cant.html

Other sources are correct!!!!!!

I doubt it. The new GTR will be a pig of a car weighing in at 1740kg, will only be available in automatic, and will come with run-flats as standard. The hyped up times for the GTR is similar to the previous sub 8 minute time..........i.e. they were never proven and they were never official times.

HSV GTS Magnetic Ride Control From an owner IMO the HSV setup is supperior to that of the Bose system. The main advantage of the MRC's found in HSV are costs (far cheaper) and packaging (far smaller). Top of the line ferrari's and Audi's TT along with Caddy's top of the line cars now use MRC.

Ummmmmm have you had a look at the recent class action suit against Toyota? Yet again Toyota has been keeping problems under wraps, paying off irate customers outside of court and outside of media scrutiny. Problem was one of these Toyota owner has gone out and exposed Toyota’s engine problems and their under the table hush money. RESULT? Toyota was forced to compensate owners of Lexus and Toyota vehicles. The problem affects 3.5 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles with model years between 1997 and 2002. This sludge build-up problem according to experts was the result of bad engine design and can cause engines to die (requiring total engine replacements). This problem will cost Toyota Billions of dollars to rectify.

go to http://ninemsn.video.msn.com go to news and click on 1) Holden Commodore VE named Wheels Car of the Year and 2)Live: ACA presents the 2007 Wheels Car of the Year

Holden VE Commodore Wheels car of the year !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ACA The three finalists Video http://ninemsn.video.msn.com/v/en-au...&mediaid=32734

Ummmmm any other car currently share the same suspension, chassis, and many other components? Apart from the engine this commodore shares nothing with other GM cars. Today’s Holden is nothing like Nissan which shares every components among its cheapest cars to its most expensive ones. Heck the new GTR has the same shape as the old 350Z and also the old Hyundai Tiburon. Take off your Holden hate goggles.

Well the VE's were benchmarked against the old BMW M5. According to many BMW owners the old BMW's were (dynamically) better than the current BMW's. I wouldnt say better but it should be pretty close, maybe not comfort wise.

New HSV GTS having a bit of fun http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRS6A1wjwXw