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My cars logged 3D Touring Car - we have been through this with CAMs the cage is complied to run 3D Sports Sedans, you can't build a new car with a Larry bar - some say.
Shannons is on this weekend at SMP.
We have spoken to many owners of older cars, and this is where we are at.
Thanks for your reply
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Update::: on work in progress
NEW SERIES Touring Cars Pre 03 EXHUMED
At Wakefield Park / MRA Proudly supported by Gary's Motorsport Tyres –
14th April, 30th June and 15th September
Do you have an old touring car in the shed? Would like to see it on the track.Hi All
Introducing a 3 Series - 3 Race Program this year in conjunction with MRA Sport Sedans
and for 2014 4 Round – 3 Race Series.Fuel / Gift Vouchers up for grabs - not necessarily to winners of the event - ie best drive, team, officials draw etc.
Entries - (Log book $20 - once off, Registration $30 PA AASA) – Event Entries @ $230 per round
So far here's the rules; work in progress this year-
1) Eligible drivers must appreciate their vehicle and others - non contact, no blocking. AASA or Cams license required (Circuit)
2) Eligible vehicles Must comply with schedule A & B of CAMs manual with the below exceptions
- manufactured pre 2003 model – Touring Car
- must be front mount engine
- maximum engine size of 5ltr
- maximum compression ratio 10:1
- engine must be same as vehicle manufacturer
- ECU is Free
- Copies of early touring cars may be eligible
3) Roll Cage, seat, seat belts as per CAMs rules for Sports Sedans
4) Fuel maximum of 100 RON - E85 not eligible
5) Gear Box - H pattern with operable reverse and manual / Hyd operated clutch
6) Diff Ratios - free
7) Brake pads and rotors - free, other than only 1 rotor per wheel - no water cooling
8) Tyres and Rims - tyres are free must be of race purpose construction, maximum rim size 18 x 10"
9) Safety - Helmet minimum requirement AS1698. Suit, gloves, boots - minimum required 8856-2000.
Fire Extinguishers - Minimum 2 x 1kg current extinguishers available in garage - 1 of can be in vehicle. (Recommended)Please contact
Stuart Inwood
H: 02 6337 2545
M: 0418 202047
Email: [email protected]
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I would like to thank our new series Sponsor for 2013 - Windscreen Banner - Gary's Motorsport Tyres
Also thanks to some gift / fuel voucher supporters to date;
Gary's Motorsport Tyres
ACM Mechanical & Dyno
A1 Towing
Tutton Plumbing
Rural Earthworks
JG Lines & Designs
All looks good in a week
Cheers
Stuart
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Sorry Brad Nitrous is available too (my car needs it lol), E85 is out for this class, not available at the time these cars were running and the whole plan is to keep these cars even and budget friendly. E85 cars can run in Sports Sedans with us this year, and it looks like with the support we are receiving some gift cards / vouchers will be going to Sports Sedans anyways
Cheers
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Thanks Risking - yes as long as the model was produced pre03, An 04 commodore VY is fine and BA Falcon is still fine. The Pre 03 year is a base point for other vehicles as well, as super tourers are also welcome ie BMW's, Audi's etc
VY with VZ aero is out, same with AU or BA Falcon with BF Aero. As you are aware the aero in this era made a huge time difference to vehicles.
Basically looks like rules will be as per Shannons V8 Touring Car series as a base with what we have come up with so far below.
At the moment;
Eligable drivers - apprecitive of their vehicle and others
Eligable vehicles are front engine manufacturer pre 2003 / model build
Roll Cage CAMs approved
Engine must be maximum 5ltr at 10:1 compression ratio
Fuel must be maximum 100 ron // E85 N/A - will be in Sports Sedan
Gear box must be H pattern
Rim diameter 18" x 10"
ECU free
Tyre choice free
Diff Ratio's free
Fuel Cell - CAMs spec for Sports Sedan
Seat Belts - CAMs spec for Sports Sedan
Seat - CAMs spec for Sports Sedan
Fire Extinguishers - as per current CAMs Sports Sedan Rules (but highly recommend 1kg minimum)
Brake pads and rotors free
Aero forward facing radius minimum 15mm to comply with Schedule F (CAMs) and class
Racing Attire minimum FAI 8856 - 2000
Noise as per track requirements
Thanks - your thoughts
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Wheels nuts are a bit crazy - cost wise aren't they.
Not here to bag Shannons / Kumho - not to rough, (maybe just a bit flash for me) too expensive for our budget - simple as that.
We have picked this date (pre03) at random for vehicles, on feedback over the last month. Hence the reason we will be running with sports sedans for the 3 rounds this year and your and other feedback is appreciated.
If there is any issues on classing, cars will still be eligable if log booked and pass scrutineering to run within Sports Sedan. I feel this is a great benefit to sort and build what class is required. There is many questions and there is going to be many more, for example what do you do with an AU 99 build with BA Aero front only. I would say it can't run, but for the moment it will be in sports sedan, for the sole reason the car is pre 03, aero is not. The chassis is part therefore, and for this reason this year, this vehicle is also eligable for gift / fuel vouchers on offer, if the driver fits the standards we are looking at for the series.
So therefore, what we are asking is for people to enter a eligable car and conform to a good friendly budget race series. That sounds basic doesnt it, with the view to chatting with many to get a good base set of rules developed for 2014 series.
We are only trying to get a series going we are quite happy with response.
This is not a national series, I am already in the poo because of the date picked on acceptance - eg so why shouldn't a low budget BF be able to run? My answer to this, if I could afford a BF I would hope to be taking advantage of it.
Anyways for the time Pre 03 is it, clean fun racing for a day $230 - (plus annual fee, passbook /log $20 registration $30 - both to MRA)
For this season anyone that is unsure while we are sorting the rules out, don't be shy to ask any questions and turn up - at the worst you might get upgraded to Sports Sedan - its the same sheep station at the end of the day, as long as we all do 3 races and enjoy.
Cheers Stuart and Karen
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Hi Brad,
Will get futher regs when they are sorted, but firstly any touring car pre the 31st December 2002 is welcome, maximum 5ltr - engine block must be that of vehicle manufacturer.
The main plan is to get older, unchanged cars back onto the track - hence the reason we are not replacing our engine in Falcon with a 6ltr, thoughts crossed my mind for Sports Sedans but did not want to do cage or any redesigns to car, so keeping 5lt as per SBR, hence not devalueing car. But be able to afford entry fee and have good clean racing. Should go well.
The 18 inch wheel option has been added for safety, most 17" were magnesium, beyond their use by date, I know we bin'd 12 out of 20. 18" have better tyre choice, price and more available. New rims are similar price.
Next round on the 14th could possibly be a bit quiet, plenty of interest for the 2 later rounds and next year.
Cheers Stuart
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I can't believe this topic still gets raised, it is very basic - run a breather front and rear of tapet covers, oil / air separater above tapet covers and return line back to sump - does not matter which side, with a super light one way valve and minimum 19mm hoses for breather systems (slows air speed). This will vary if you run 10 pound of boost or 30 - as I do. There is nothing wrong with JE, CP, or Nissan pistons - the ring width should not change the seal with correct end gap, will just reduce friction and life span. If you want 310kw you won't get much blow by, but if you do not do above, your engine won't last on the track. If you want 440kw and you pick the right bits, you can do 4 years with just oil changes, with track, hillclimb, sprints, time attacke etc. We have put several pictures of R32 and R33 system on SAU and other sites - many use it now, no complaints yet - I am with above the mines baffles and restrictors are bollocks, sump is definitely a plus if doing tracks, keeps temps down and adds to safety. Cheers Stuart
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Hi All,
Got a new series going - for anyone interested
Car must be Pre 2003 V8 Touring Car, seat belts and fuel cells only have to comply with MRA / CAMs rules not V8 Touring car rules. Diff ratios / tyres are free, 18x11" wheels max, must be 5ltr, H Pattern - thats the basics.
There is 3 rounds in 2013
14th April 2013
30th June 2013
15th Sept 2013
To be run in conjunction with MRA - Sports Sedans this year.
Sunday 3 race program cost $230 ea - (passbook/logbook $20, Series Registration $30 - one off annual).
Private practice may be available Saturday to be confirmed - at Track cost (TBA)
All at Wakefield Park for this year, looking at one of four rounds at Winton (2014) rest at Wakefield Park.
For eligable cars - there will be on offer, various fuel cards @ $25 - $50, and same vouchers from various other supporters ie gift cards. Theses bonuses will be presented to ie best and fairest drive, best team, best fun factor team, best presented car etc.
Still working on the details - contact me Stuart Inwood email [email protected] for interest or ideas.
Entries to be lodged under MRA Sports Sedans - Wakefield Park for 14th April -CAMs log book & licence are fine for first round entered.
If any businesses would like to donate gift / vouchers for rounds or sponsor the series - please contact me for information. Eg windscreen banner $2k per round, for 2013 or $100 to allow purchase of fuel vouchers- in return your business name in program, flyers, noticeboard at event, local media and chance of coverage on Speedweek TV and other media.
If you want to spend more - we have an AU without a sponsor. (Current NSW Sports Sedan Champion). But top priority is to get the old touring cars out of their sheds.
Cheers thanks guys - please pass it around - most appreciated
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Looking good, Welsh plugs - all new - yes? and all hoses, under inlet all new - yes? You don't want to be playing under that side after!
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Thanks Ash & Co
Some great cars about, sorry we had to depart early - didn't get a high boost run in, as month old caster rod failed and took out drive shaft wiring, tyre etc - Karen's first lap second run, turn 2 all over.
Thanks again all, we hope to have a bit more time next time to catch up.
Cheers
Stuart & Karen
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Hi All
We competed in the Aussie Hillclimb Championships 4/11/12 - Karen won 2A Sports in R33 and set a PB time, Neil wasn't far behind in the same class and I in the AU3, ended up with class win and Fastest Tintop - congrats to all
Here's an incar running the Falcon, track temp wasn't anywhere near what we were hoping, my tyres were 2 races old - didn't get to PB time set last December but did what we went for
Cheers Karen & Stuart
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Thanks for the advice Stuart,I think I will give it a go,nice and easy!Just out of curiosity,what times do you run up there?Cheers
No worries Matt
Have record in Sports Sedan - 23.48
Record for closed 2A time 23.30
Here's the link to results last time there State Round
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Stu we saw you driving the R33 at Newcastle it looked great coming out of the 2nd or 3rd last turn (hair pin) that late apex really worked well. Bugger about the caster rods.
Thanks Ryan, seriously if you run this style of rod, check inside of forward bolt hole for cracks. We have gone to HFM brand rod (as this older tie rod failed on our R32, with the same result - new guard, skirt, plastic inner guard, drive shaft - as you know all new is not cheap, but I suppose have been lucky they failed where they did) - let you know how they go.
Back to hair pin, still didn't get my record time - tyres were 12 months old and a bit over it - but by coming into hairpin late and going back to 1st gear was a second quicker than the run I did in second gear through there.
If anyone needs intercooler hoses (R32 or R33) try car craze - half the price of most others, and good quick service.
Also thank Prestige Motorsport for front guard and plastics (new), also good quick postage and service, CV Joints Australia for brand new drive shaft right front overnight, cheaper than used, and as always SSS Automotive.
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Hi Matthew - Matt's got the best plan don't go 10/10ths - my thoughts - most tracks have there own little issues as far as safety, bumps, trees, concrete etc but personal opinion with regards to Dapto - first time there I hated it - took all day to get two runs in and not less than 6 really nice cars got trailered home, but the cars or the track aren't to blame - whatever the other excuses were !!
Feel your way into it and if your are happy - go for it - but keep in mind you get 4 to 6 runs - first run or so have a good look and feel, we find it is better to work into it, than work on it (the car)
And yes Karen and I both like the track now, but it is the same as all - time. Time to learn it, what time you want to do, etc etc 10/10ths normally ends in tears not trophy.
Cheers
Stuart
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If you are running these castor rods or rod ends, get new non step down rod ends and check front bolt holes on Castor Rods as you can see one of ours failed, and the other is cracked through one side of front bolt hole
Cheers
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Club and state are the same same, as far as 95% of the competitors go, there is heaps of different venues and clubs - you will find you have more issues with clubs and organisations than what you will have with any competitor.
As far as what class and level you wish to run, thats your own personal choice, we started in Type SV, after a couple of years moved to Sports Sedan and then of late 2A Sports, this was done based on our progress and results and on a personal choice - we can still run SV or in Sports Sedans.
The car is still rego'd and on R-Spec Tyres, this year we mixed between Kumho and Yoky's and all tyres used were over 12 months old for this years Championship, even running double entered. (must say there is only air left now)
If anyone saw the car at King Edward Park Hillclimb, I was a second off my PB, caught up on some drifting practice. Karen has not ran there since 2001, (then in her fathers LC Torana) - we were unhappy with the breakage of a castor rod on Karen's last run, and dissapointed we didn't put new tyres on for the event - but that was my fault because we used that budget last week in Sports Sedan (AU tyres) - there was heaps of non championship competitors, first timers and long timers, I am quite sure everyone enjoyed their weekend.
As far as Round 9 goes, Karen got fastest lady & 2nd in class (registered competitor), I got fastest tintop and 1st in class, 3rd Outright.
And as far as fun factor, we helped out more than 10 people from loans of jump packs, to wheel alignments, thottle linkage repairs, nuts and bolts - even the BBQ got borrowed - you can even do this at state Sports Sedan Championships (does cost a bit more) even at national level, you will only back what you put in, same as every other day !!!
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We are off to the final round this weekend - Newcastle King Edward Park
Tintop is wrapped up, Karen's got fastest lady but we have to go and have a run to ensure class win - both in R33
Off the topic, here's a short video of last weekends wrap up of State Sports Sedan Championship in AU Taxi
Cheers Stuart and Karen
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Best of luck - heaps of carbon fibre and fibreglass OS had issues even sourcing these - if you can find some reasonable ones out here, I will buy some tooo
Cheers
Stuart
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Turn 5 has also been changed due to the extra pit lane added to the outside of the curb meaning you can put all 4 wheels over the curb (which isn't a curb, just a concrete strip dividing the track from the pitlane).
The exit of Turn 9 is also much wider giving better exit speeds.
Laptimes will be easily a full second quicker than last year prior to any car development.
We find with the changes to 6 - 7 - we are slower up over the hill in the R33 and the AU, it hasn't changed our exit speed at 9 on data yet, but definitely less grass and dust entering vehcile.
The above surfboard splitter - would actually be legal to run in CAMs 2A closed sports cars bar width - must have some good front springs, if it gets up to 200kms it would have 4 tonne of downforce. He will need 20 ply front tyres
Cheers
Stuart
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I finally got around to downloading my incar off my phone from bathurst
was a good week end pity i had to drive down twice from the gold coast after the first event in March was canceled. i had just finished driving the 13hours and checked in when i got the phone call it was off.
I had my evo 6 as my 180sx is still of the road.and was meet with some feirce compitition in the form of scotts evo 2. that think is crazy fast. as is you stuart in that gtr.
i was quite happy with my result seen as though it was my first time ever to bathurst. Esses 28.33 2nd in class and 9th outright, Mt Straight 50.64 2nd in class and 10th outright after just two runs as i busted my diff/drive shaft on the 2nd run and ended my weekend.
not bad for a stock evo with only 185kw.
I'm hoping to do Grafton in june. and my mate with the supercharged black commodore is trying to convince me to come down for the Aus titles in november and leave the cars down there for the following esses and supersprint a few weeks later. but i will have to do some budgeting.
Troy
Excellent job Troy, Bathurst does take a few goes to get right compared to most tracks - well done!
Sorry did not know you had an issue, not that I had any Evo bits but maybe could have helped. Normally give us a yell if you need anything - as we have got lots of tools & things, cause when you have got lots - you don't need them - well thats our motto.
If you come back for the Aussie's - we live only 14kms from town, will be a bit warmer then, lots more grip - if required we can baby sit your car for you.
That crazy bloke in the Evo 2 has taken a couple of years to crack the 50 mark in right way hc (brother in law) I just finished corner weighting and full wheel alignment on it - was out to the &*&% - a long way - think Scotty's going fishing instead of Grafton and I am awaiting results - hopefully next week, from Day 1 at Bathurst, day 2 results all good - strange!!
Sports Sedans are on same weekend (Eastern Creek) as Grafton so will let you know soon - which event will be doing
Cheers Stuart
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Seems like a Certain Silver GTR smashed the shit out of the record
Well done Stu
Last set of numbers I saw had Neil foing quite well too
Thanks
Old Torana also has 65 year old driver - had to do and engine change on Saturday night (father in law) he got second in class both days.
Mt Straight - 56.47 Esses - 30.54 Engine change went smoothly - just someone forgot to do the left hand front wheel up after putting the starter motor in - so first run was very steady - but no harm done - wasn't Karen or I.
Neil had a good trouble free weekend and seemed to be enjoying his first outing at Bathurst in the Skyline
As Karen and I were double entered and had raffles and issues (protest against us) and things to deal with, organised 2 x joy rides (Project Patrick) so had paperwork and extra safety supp regs to go thru with CAMs bla bla bla - all went well
Here's a couple of vids from Saturday and Sunday
Esses
Mountain Straight
Enjoy
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Round 2 - Mt Cooperbung - done!
Major incident free weekend by all - lots of records broken
Sorry Neil, you escaped the video
Cheers Stuart
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Evil - Turn 6, will take a little bit of getting used to - the old flip flop seemed to balance the car better for exit speed.
Ben - yeah we are down 200 hp to front running sports sedans, reliying on good behaviour and reliability. Eastern Creek had a shocker in tyre choice, put 2 new ones on - but way too soft.
We were off our pace by 5 seconds.
Cheers
5Ltr V8 Touring Cars Nsw
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Hi All
Next series is based on Pre04 builds - we are running an event combining with Nascars at Wakefield Park on the 23rd 24th November in support of Super Truck's - last event was great biggest crowd in many years. Open to all Ex V8 touring cars, for this round. Only rule is driver behaviour - fuel cards etc up for grabs. Skylines and alike can run regularity, (LS2) Super TT or Sports Sedans - (Race lic AASA, CAMS or equivalent) Log / Passbook - as long as you fill out the form and meet the requirements - all good.
Can someone PM Risking - he can run E85 for this event and let him know we are still sorting classes for next year for 5.0LTR V8 Touring Cars NSW Series, at Wakefield Park - to be confirmed
Please feel free to email ([email protected]) or phone 0418 202 047 for further details.
Pushing for Stand Alone Races 2014, V8 Touring at the moment 7 plus cars confirmed
Preliminary Calendar MRA NSW - all at Wakefield Park
26th January
27th April
29th June
24th August
Plus (No Series Points but great weekends)
Truck Series / Nacar invite
17th - 18th May
29th - 30th November
Also Interstate invites
If you are a non driver or not and are about - will be well worth a watch - November 23rd and 24th - last round was $25 to get in the gate
daily or $40 weekend pass.
Pm me next week if you are keen I reckon I can do better for you on admission.
Thanks all