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thanks guys I did a search but didnt find anything. exactly what i was after EDIT: oh and i thought i might as well ask here, does anyone know the torque output from a SR20DE in an S14? Thats the non-turbo. Im doing a bit of research and its the only car i cant find the torque figures for any help is appreciated

Hey, just wondering what fuel consumption people are getting with their skylines (N/A of course). Please list it like this: Series: (eg. R32, R33 or R34) Year: Mods: (eg. headers, exhaust, intake etc) Tank size: Km's per tank: Driving conditions: (eg. Lots of freeway runs, suburban driving, going through the hills etc) I know some will say if i care about fuel usage, i shouldnt look at a skyline, but I would like to just get a rough idea on how much fuel they use This should put a rough list together on how much fuel N/A skylines drink, which will help me and certainly help others looking to buy a skyline

well i like the look of the 2 door better. I prob wont need the 4 door (until i get a family, but that will be ages away). And 2 door are lighter yeh? And I also hate the 4 door r33. The rear lights look nothing like the 2 door. Im looking at wikipedia now, and it says the r33 gts25 only has 140kw (not 147kw) and 231Nm torque (which i thought was 255Nm). But if i go to the RB25DE on wikipedia it says this: "RB25DE - NON - TURBO twin-cam 140 kW/190 PS and 147 kW/200 PS (with VCT) @ 6000 rpm, 255 N·m (26.0 kgf·m) @ 4000 rpm)" And the r33 after 1993 has VCT, so wouldnt it be 147kw, and 255Nm torque? Confused...

Unfortunately I cannot do this, as no modifications are allowed on P's, especially engine swaps Or else i would get an r33 and drop in a RB30DE Nah i wouldnt get a 300zx. They are heavy as you say, and old, and cost HEAPS to repair, especially engine work, as its cramped. Some sites say the r32 and r33 are the exact same in weight, but im sure the r33 is a little heavier, but not by much. I wouldnt get an r32, as it is VERY hard to find one with a rb25de, and they are older. I would either get an r33 or r34 So its pretty much, either an r33 or r34, both with the RB25DE, only the r34 has a neo head with a little more torque. Should i go for the 4 door or 2 door r34 if i decide to get one? I dont really need the 4 doors, so smarter to get 2 door to save weight? Also, some sites say the r33 has 230Nm torque while others say it has 255Nm, which is it?

Whats jza80 mean...? And how much quicker does the r34 feel, and how does it achieve more power with the same engine (and more weight)? Also, any reason why you keep getting the non-turbo skylines? P plate rules? So can we please go back to my question, the difference between series 1 and 2? thx

another question, what is the difference between the series 1 and series 2 r33? Here is what i know so far: - Driver and passenger airbags standard in series 2 - Different headlights with improved reflectors - Reshaped bonnet - Option of A-LSD what other changes were there between series 1 and 2?

Yeah, but it is so hard to find a R32 with an RB25DE. There isnt even one on carsales.com.au does anyone know if engine swaps are allowed on the vic P plate rules? highly doubt it...

lol good point Reggi34dr. Also, to R34 -_- I wont be able to get a turbo until I am 22, so I want to find a decent N/A car now and keep that for a while, doing little things to it. I would like something N/A with a little more go than a r33 skyline, but I dont know what to look at. Throw me some ideas of some good N/A cars: - under 14k - RWD - the same or quicker than an r33 skyline And i will do some research on those cars and see if i like em. All i got now is the r33 and s14

well my budget is very small because i am in year 12 and only work 1-2 times a week But I am not planning to get the car until i get my green's next year. I definately dont want to spend more than 14k. But the closer to 10k the better. I can get some r33's and r34's for that price (non turbo) and also s14, 180sx ect. I looked at the 300zx, and the non turbo makes the exact same power/ton as the r33, but the r33 makes more torque/ton. So on the debate about N/A R33 vs N/A R34, both RWD and no mods, what would be quickest and by what margin? Are we still saying the R34 is faster, even though its heavier? Must be more powerful engine? And im guessing the 34 is better with handling etc?

thanks mad082. Sorry i forgot to add in the requirements that it must be RWD. Another major reason for upgrading from the lancer. Im sick on understeer and spinning front wheels.. So the magna, pulsar and honda's are knocked out. I know they may have awesome engines, but I would really not like to get another FWD. And yeah I really dont like the looks of the supra, inside and out. Wish i could steal the engine from one though Another option is the 300zx, but they are big heavy cars with big engines, and wouldnt be too quick N/A. Also not too fond of the looks of those either :S The only silvia that I dont mind is the s14. The s15 is awesome, but I cant afford it, and I dont particularly like the s13. It looks very old and cheap IMO. Im very fussy I "LOVE" the r33 and r34, but the lack of power is the only thing putting me off. To people here who have an N/A r33 or r34 and have driven it without any modifications, how did it go? Were you annoyed by the lack of power? thanks for the help!

thanks to all the replies. Sorry I should have been more specific. I was comparing the r33 RWD and the r34 RWD. So in this case, the r34 would always come in front? Even though its quite a bit heavier? If so, i will see if i can afford the r34, if not, the r33 should be good. mad082, I have seen in a few threads that you say to go for a falcon or commodore if going N/A. I understand that they have big engines and lots of torque, but I would never get one of those. They are more of a family car, and i dont really like the look and feel of them, just personal opinion. I know they would probably beat an N/A skyline but it isnt my type of car I also hear the gear ratio's on them are not so great, which gives skylines a bit of a chance. Is there any other N/A cars out there that I could be looking at? Here are my requirements: - No turbo - No performance modifications - Nothing over 6 cylinder - Something quicker/more powerful than an N/A skyline The only other car I can think of is the Toyota Supra 3.0L V6 no turbo, which puts out a lot of power, but Im not really fond of the looks of that car. Looks a bit rice to me (i know skyline is too, but not as bad. just my opinion). What other N/A cars should I consider?

hey all, im new on this forum so take it easy I am looking to buy a skyline. I am on my red P plates in Vic, thats why I am in the N/A section No other reason I would be here. Would get turbo if I could. Unfortunately I can get a turbo till im 22... Anyway, I love the look of both the Skyline R33 and R34, so im wondering which is quickest out of those 2? Both using the RB25DE, the R34 with the NEO head. I know the R34 is heavier, but does it make up for it with a newer/slightly different engine, or is the power delivery to the wheels better (less power loss)? I currently have a Mitsubishi Lancer MR 1.8L, so either of these should be a massive upgrade Im sick of the lack of torque, power and RWD of my car. Any help appreciated