ford explorer! or for a van an honda odessey! the new 1's! there is a guy getting round here in a slammed explorer! its tight! yeah and u are rite about that forry, it has got too mouch gold, but i wouldnt have done the wimdows in mirror it would make a world of difference to break it up. also those rims are dished a litlle. they were the 1's i told my mate to buy, bcoz they would look good against a black car. im not a huge fan of bling rims either, but if i had to buy sum they would be the 1's big chrome area with a dish. dont like all the fancy looking ones like snow flakes and shit theyre gay as! anyway there cool car when done up rite. there is a few of them getting into the 13's now, not a bad effort.