its ok its for my mate... i used my head and did a search and found some previous threads in regards to them... he wants a 180sx and they have a nice lookin 97 model but hes rushing him for a sale, even saying tomorrow morning he will take him to CBA and get his mate to give him the loan for it and im telling him to wait til i can come down with him and look at the car and check to see if its been in an accident and get RACV to do a check on it as well.