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Hi Guys.
I got 2 RB30 short bloks from Australia, and wanna build a RB30/RB25 into my Stagea RS4, but i am not sure i have all parts and, and how to build the buttom of the engine.
The RB30 shot blok is rebuild, so my new wiseco pistons in size 86.5 fits, i have all the bearings, the HX version from ACL, my crank is polished, and new gaskets.
I have a RB25 buttom with 4WD and, a RB26 buttom from a R34, witch one is the best to this engine, my goal is 800+ hp.
My RB25 top, is a RB25DET, it is ported, and i have Tomie Pro cams, solid lifters, timing belt and adjustable cam wheels..
New oilpump from Nismo, new waterpump, big plenum, single turbo manifold and a Garrett GT45.
The adapter-plate i have to use to assamble the RB25 top and the RB30 buttom, where can i buy that, or is it better to build by that my self.!
Other things i need, before i can assamble the engine.!
Best Regards.
Jorn Petersen
Denmark.
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Hi Guys.
I have a problem with my aircondition, when i push the buttom Auto og Aircondition, it don´t start the pump, i have checked the fuses, they are okay, in the big fuse-box, i full up the big blue fuse, and put power on leg 3 or 5, and the aircondition starts, then i know it have to be somewhere arround the control panel, but why and where.!!
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Thats a mega hair dryer there!! whats the lag like on the road?? i wouldn't expect the standard internals to last too long with that much pressure... but good job mate looks tough 2
thanks.
I get boost a 4300 rpm, yes all the internal parts will last much longer, because i get my boost at high rpm, often when people broke there h-beams, is when they get boost at low rpm, i think thats the reasons i can get all that power, i will try to go for 600 hp now, i get a lot of wheelspin when i get boost in first gear, and second gear it just pull, no tire smoke.
Octan 99 from Shell. (i will have to take a look at the ECU-sheet to tell you that, but it is high (later today)
The car i rwd, and this is a normal RB25DET engine.
Take a look at this video, and watch where the light starts in the manifold, cylinder 5 and 6, there we have added more fuel, to cool them.
On this video,. i make 1,3 bars boost, and approx 470-480 hp.
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Hi guys.
Today i had my Stagea on dyno again, at 1,49 bars boost.
Before it was on the dyno, we adjusted the ignition 4 degress higher in the boost-area, air-fuel-ratio at 1.55 bar on road, 11.8
Effect on dyno: 552 hp - 588 nm.
Engine insite, everything standard, cams, valves, gaskets, bolts, pistons, beams ect.
Changed:
Aftermarked intake-plenum, 80 mm trottlebody.
Injectors, 680cc.
Single turbo manifold.
Turbo T70.
Aftermarked ECU, Megasquirt, adjusted by my self.
Aftermarked Intercooler and piping, 2,½ inc, to 3,½ inc.
Exhaust 3,½ inc all the way.
Innovative Motorsport LC1 wideband kit.
Excity cintermetal clutch.
Video and dyno result.
Dyno:
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You'll get alot of conflicting information and alot of the "you can't to this and that" or "don't do this and that" comes from guys who havn't actually pushed motors very far at all.
11mm head studs are fine, we have been to over 900whp with them, done hours and hours on the road and dyno and raced all season getting down to 8.7 @ 162mph with 11mm head studs, a stock 2wd block, stock crank (revved to 9000rpm) stock cradle, stock used mains bolts and no block filler or block braces at all.
Sift through all the information and you'll soon find out what is realistic from guys who have actually done it and what is not so true usually from guys who havn't.
Rob
Hi Rob.
Thanks, and i know i will get a lot of informations everywhere, good ones and bad ones, the RB30 is new for me, and i really have searched the net to find information, looking at your page (Nice one), seen videos of cars with R.I.P.S engines, thats for sure powerfull cars, but i am a Home-builder, and thats sometimes give me conflicts, and i pay, thats the same way i will build the RB30, and the reasons i purchased 2 of them, i am willing to pay the "Learn-money".
Many people thinks aggresive cams like 272, 286 is the ones to go for, maybe, that depends on how and where you need your boost, at what rpm ect. i will rater go for 260 with the highest lift, and better valve-springs. I will use the standard crank, dont touch it, find the best h-beams, have heart about a company in Sweden, but cant find them, pistons, rated and tested to more then 800+ hp, i know many people believe what they read on the internet of numbers from the producer, i rater believe in peoples experiense/personally tests. Try to find a company, maybe HKS and see the specs of the cams, are you going for less than 800 hp on a 2JZ-GTE (Supra) engine, HKS advice 264 or lower, more than 800 hp, 272 cams ect.!
Strokerkits, i will never do this, i like the short h-beams, big volume, high rpm. (Look at F1, how they build there engines)
I know Tomie makes some fine pistons, and they rated them to max. 750 hp, i will go for more, better build a engine to 1000 hp, and run with 800.
I have calculated, that i have to make a boost at 1,5 bars, to make 800 hp on this RB30, with a GT42 turbo, and thats my goal.
Learn-money, when i build my red stag, a straight RB25DET, standard cams, h-beams, bearings, gaskets, no-ported, only changed the inlet, and exhaust manifold, injectors, and mounted with a T70 turbo, people keeps telling me, you will never make more than 400-430 hp, today i make 530 hp and 561 tourqe, and have max. Rpm at 8400, 1,45 bars boost, it runs every day like a well oiled machine, goal is 600 hp., i will show them, i make my own ECU, and adjust it myself. (Work on a tuningshop). But before i pay Learn-moneys this time, i will try to use peoples experience, tests ect., from where this engine is made for, only the Australian marked, that’s the reasons for this treat.
“Highest possible flow from air filter, to output of exhaust ~ good adjusted ignition ~ good injectors ~ right among of fuel all the way”
Back to bussines, where can i find the best h-beams and pistons for a RB30 engine.!
Have a nice day.
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What oil pump have you got? I would seriously consider a stroker crank from shanef . Argo or pauter rods, cp or je pistons, all arp fasteners, and much bigger cams than the 260's you have, you will need at least 272's to make 600awkw. Probably would get the rb30 adapter plate/crank girdle from shanef as well, as its the best one on the market.
Nismo oilpump.
Can you sent me a link to these companys.! (shanef . Argo or pauter )
On the bottom i will use ARP, on the top i will use the originals.
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dont rev it too hard
Hi, i know, my last RB25DET (530hp) was killed that way ;-)
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Hi Guys.
I need some advice to find parts for my new engine.
I got 2 RB30DET engines from Australia, and have searched the internet to find rods, pistons ect., good enough to make more then 800AWHP, Tomie rods and pistons is rated to max. 750, whats better and stronger, i have 2 RB25DET engines, and one of these will be the top on this engine, right now i have a guy and he taking good care of this top, and porte is, the inlet looks fine, but there is a bigger job on the exhaust site.
Setup will be a big single turbo, a GT42R, i have the R34 gearboks, have a guy who will build new axels, he normally build to tractor-pulling :-)
I have a trible HKS clutch.
This will be a everyday car, and for some fun in the weekends at the dragstrip, i know i will get lag, but thats fine.
Car is a Nissan Stagea RS-Four V
Where will my limits be, what to be wear of, don´t know anything about this RB30 bottom, have bouild many 2JZ-GTE and RB25DET engines, but never this one.
Have found a lot treats here, but not with the same goal as i have.
So far i have found:
Cams Tomie Pro 260 in/ex - 10.25. + lifters.
Bearings and gaskets.
Waterpump
Oilpump
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RB30 sub-forum in the Forced Induction section is the place to be for information on big hp build.
thats mate, i will move it.
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Hi Guys.
I need some advice to find parts for my new engine.
I got 2 RB30DET engines from Australia, and have searched the internet to find rods, pistons ect., good enough to make more then 800AWHP, Tomie rods and pistons is rated to max. 750, whats better and stronger, i have 2 RB25DET engines, and one of these will be the top on this engine, right now i have a guy and he taking good care of this top, and porte is, the inlet looks fine, but there is a bigger job on the exhaust site.
Setup will be a big single turbo, a GT42R, i have the R34 gearboks, have a guy who will build new axels, he normally build to tractor-pulling :-)
This will be a everyday car, and for some fun in the weekends at the dragstrip, i know i will get lag, but thats fine.
Car is a Nissan Stagea RS-Four V
Where will my limits be, what to be wear of, don´t know anything about this RB30 bottom, have bouild many 2JZ-GTE and RB25DET engines, but never this one.
Have found a lot treats here, but not with the same goal as i have.
So far i have found:
Cams Tomie Pro 260 in/ex - 10.25. + lifters.
Bearings and gaskets.
Waterpump
Oilpump
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Easily done
The stroker kits come from JUN, TOMEI, HKS etc... you can find them on most importer websites: www.importmonster.com.au, www.japanpartsdirect.com.au, www.nengun.com etc... As far as RB30 is concerned, that's not a hugely difficult job: if you want one, we'll find one for you... Thanks mate, that's makes me happy, and thanks for all the URL.Goal for the new white Stagea, RB30 engine, and big hp, money is no problem.
today i pull out my old engine, stripped the new one, put my old plenum and turbo-kit on the new engine, i only missed the flywheel and clutch, and tomorrow morning (Now it midnight i DK), a new engine is ready to boost and run. (I took a lot of pictures, they will be here tomorrow.) I also took the top of the old engine, and thats bad, some of the aluminium from the piston number six, is sitting on the cylinder-wall, i also have pictures of that.
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Stroker kit! you get to keep the same eng#, so you shouldn't have any issues with your local laws either...
Where can i get that i AUS.!!
Or better, a m8 downunder, find me a RB30 engine, i will pay him before he buy it, and the shipping costs aswell, and send to my adress in Denmark.
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shit be interested in seeing how the block went as when mine blew it cracked big time . mine had 255awk but a bad night and a massive boost spike due to a waste gate line comming addrift . all ended broke 2 ringlands and cracked 2 other pistons as well as the block cracking so sad .
I have only cracked 1 piston, no 6, had the plugs out today, a little camera down, and there was oil on top of piston no. 6.
I don't want to repair this engine, i found a new one today, and i start tomorrow changing, hopefully i am on the road again 6-8 hours later.
( thats the great thing, when i don't have to change anything insite, only intake and turbomanifold.)
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Please tell me someone took video footage of some of that....??
I don't have a video, where my engine goes kaput, but other.
On this video i made a 13,55, and 172 km/h, missed 4. gear, beat a Skyline GTS. (11 MB)
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There is an 18 page thread in the DIY section (max power from RB25DET) where someone went through this exercise. The answer is the sky's the limit as to what you can acheive on the dyno but you are already above what can normally be sustained for any length of time. However as you appear to have the resources to find out for yourself...good on you.
Thanks.
Engine blown.
Long story, but was to Danish Nationls this weekend, and my car was in a show-class, smoking tires, 402 m, ect.
Before all runs, i was on the dyno at this event, 1,33 bar, 488 rwhp, at all these runs, i made 1,42 bars boost.
The first 4-5 402m runs, i mad 13,4 - 13,5:
Reaction times between 0.28 and 0.33.
60 foot: 2,6 to 2,75 every time < Bad Launch-control, and street-tires.
At 200m: 147 km/t.
At 402m: 189 km/t.
But at every run, and at approx 370m, i had to shift to 4. gear, and my max. rpm was at this time at 7800 rpm, i changed this to 8500 rpm, and hope i now was able to go all the way in 3. gear, lower the rpm in the launch-control to 3200 rpm, and made another run, i got a better start, and at approx 390m, i was at 8500 rpm, i didn't shift to 4. gear, pedal to the metal, stayed there, and piston number 5 or 6. was dead, a lot of smoke from the engine room, shit happens.
I will add a video or 2 soon.
I put in a new engine in 2 days, still a standard engine, my new goal is 600 rwhp this time, but i will only make 7800 rpm..
A very nice weekend, the winner in street-class, was a EVO 9, 9,51 sec.
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$20 says it goes to 520whp!
hehehe.. nope, will not bet with you.
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Dude, you rock!
Thanks m8, anyone know, how much i can make out of a standard RB25 engine, before i blow.!!
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Cheers
Yep RB30 in a Silvia.
Have a GTR lift pump in the tank. Overkill but I already had it in there..
The External pump was the one that stopped though
Hope the Bosch Pump can run at a lower voltage.. took a bit of work setting it up.
I have the same pump and setup in my Stagea, and have the pump at the same place, i run with 12v, i am pretty sure, you have to run it with 12v, but at this place, it is very noisy.
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Hi Res.
Picture cut be better, taking from a video, but from at Full HDTV video
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sounds good! I hope the drivetrain is up to it!
The drivetrain is standard 5 speed, the clutch is a HKS Zintermetal, and the flywheel is allso a HKS.
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It appears that this is turning in to one evil car...........it will be good to see a 1/4 mile time when you can...
It will happen this weekend, i hope for at low 12, and with a boost at 1,6 bar, that will be arround 550 rwhp.
Remember, nothing insite the engine is changed, standard cams, bolts, gaskets, this engine is only a test, because there is a lot off smartguys in Denmark, telling me, i can't make more then 450 hp out of a standard RB25DET engine, i will show them.
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doesnt really get on the boil till over 5500 approx rpm .. is the car mostly for street use?
Thanks.
This car is only for street use, and some fun.
I this weekend, we have Danish Nationals, and i will go on the drag-strip, and smoke some tires with a friend, he have a 650 hp Supra, we will together smoke the track, all 402 meters, to warm up the spectators, my brother will record it on video, and i will post it here.
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Hi guys.
I had my stagea on dyno yesterday, i put on at bigger turbo, a T70, and adjusted til fuel to 1,4 bar.
On the dyno the boost was only at 1,33 bars, but it still made 485,5 rwhp at 7200 rpm, and 484 nm at 5800 rpm.
As you can see on the attached fil of effect, there is a lot more power in this turbo, and it have the same nm all the ways, in this weekend, i will try more then 1,6 bar.
Link to video:
http://www.jorn-petersen.dk/e107/e107_files/Video/00187.wmv
And a picture of a warm turbo, and the dyno result.
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I recently sent a motor to canada, shipping was about $650. It worked out better for me to strip the motor, and send it with the new pistons/bearings and other parts in one go.
If someone cut help me with the same, i will be glad, and there is no risk, i will pay you before you do anything.!!
I'd get a decent workshop down here to source you one, and check/strip/prep the block.I'd hate to see you get a cracked block after waiting weeks & spending $$$.
Correct, i was also in my mind, get a crap blok, and payed for it.
I will be very glad, if someone cut find me a RB30 or RB31 i good condition, i will also pay to get re-ballanced the crank, new H-beams, and pistons, just tell me the price.!!
My goal is more then 600 awhp, and i can drive in the car every day, and visit the drag-strip in the weekends and have some fun.
The stroker kits come from JUN, TOMEI, HKS etc... you can find them on most importer websites: www.importmonster.com.au, www.japanpartsdirect.com.au, www.nengun.com etc... As far as RB30 is concerned, that's not a hugely difficult job: if you want one, we'll find one for you...
Thanks mate, that's makes me happy, and thanks for all the URL.
Rb30/rb25 Questions
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Hi TiTAN and thanks
Is the adapter-plate the only thing i need, to attach the RB25 buttom the to RB30 blok.!