Yeap PM replied too, I am really 90% going for the patrol clutch, depending on what Gav says, but really i could not see why I shouldnt, cheaper, heavy duty, etc etc etc read all the threads disscussing it and the only bad thing I saw was that the 4wd clutches are not meant to slip so if you drive around slipping the clutch a lot it could develop glazing, but other than that there are heaps of ppl with higher hp cars than my stocker running around with it for months and no probs so i wonder what Gav has against them ................... ?