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How does someone who is black flagged get to shunt the leader off the track??? Go figure!!!

Crazy 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zh2uKorg2Es

Crazy 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffGjJ0gNJs8

Crazy 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac8k-4wjwuw

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In one of the new Top gear episode, the presenters placed "NASCAR sux" on their car and they get stones thrown at by American redneck. Pretty funny to watch. :) Some drivers could be fanatics.

Anyway, they reconciled...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Sport/Fiery-Gor...6530426778.html

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How does someone who is black flagged get to shunt the leader off the track???

Maybe what you should be saying is how does someone not get black flagged for shunting the leader off the track (thats what ambrose did).

Maybe what you should be saying is how does someone not get black flagged for shunting the leader off the track (thats what ambrose did).

They were saying that Ambrose had a damaged rear from receivng a shunt from Gordon before that incident

From the footage I seen, Gordon made a clean pass up the inside of the corner, then Ambrose gave him a nudge on the way out of the corner and turned Gordon around. It was Ambrose that should have gone back to position 12 not Gordon.

From the footage I seen, Gordon made a clean pass up the inside of the corner, then Ambrose gave him a nudge on the way out of the corner and turned Gordon around. It was Ambrose that should have gone back to position 12 not Gordon.

Ambrose wasn't black flagged, Gordon was - I'll confidently say that the NASCAR judges are better informed than I/we are and called it for what it was... that would equate to Ambrose still being in the race and Gordon being disqualified.

Dayton Daily News

Driver gets apology and a compliment from Robby Gordon

Thursday, August 09, 2007

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — Marcos Ambrose was cheated out of a chance to win his first NASCAR race by Robby Gordon. His disappointment was lifted, though, when he was given an opportunity to race the first Nextel Cup event of his career.

His benefactor? None other than Gordon himself.

Feeling guilty because he intentionally wrecked Ambrose in the closing laps of the Busch Series race in Montreal, Gordon offered Ambrose a car to race this weekend on the road course at Watkins Glen, N.Y. He got the idea from a fan, who suggested it would be a peace offering to the Australian driver.

"We were all bitterly disappointed after last week, and I'm sure if Robby could have wound the clock back, he would have done things differently," Ambrose said Wednesday as he and Gordon detailed their partnership.

"It's part apology and part compliment as far as I'm concerned."

Ambrose and Gordon were racing for the lead with four laps to go in Saturday's race when a multi-car accident brought out a caution. Both drivers said they weren't sure who was ahead when the yellow flag was displayed.

All they are certain of is that at some point, Gordon passed Ambrose for the lead. Seconds later, Ambrose spun Gordon.

By the time Gordon righted his car, NASCAR scored him in 13th place. Gordon argued he should have been no lower than second, and he stayed in second on the restart, earning a disqualification.

Still, with two laps to go, he spun Ambrose, took the lead and crossed the finish line in first, denying Ambrose a sure win.

I'll confidently say that the NASCAR judges are better informed than I/we are and called it for what it was...
All they are certain of is that at some point, Gordon passed Ambrose for the lead. Seconds later, Ambrose spun Gordon.

The article says exactly what I stated above, yet Nascar still called Gordon as being in the wrong (which he was for the 2nd incident but not the first which started it all).

The article says exactly what I stated above, yet Nascar still called Gordon as being in the wrong (which he was for the 2nd incident but not the first which started it all).

You missed my point... the incident that you are referring to as the "first incident" was actually the second incident, there was an incident prior to this which damaged the rear quarter of Ambrose's car (our drivers side, US pax side). Although the first incident isn't seen in the film clip, the damage is visible and has been discussed on the news etc. Also, with the second incident where Ambrose hit Gordon... Gordon had passed Ambrose on a yellow flag.

It must be noted, that the NASCAR officials did not dispute Ambrose's actions, yet fined Gordon $35,000 and placed him on probation through the end of the year for his misconduct. I guess they saw more than we did.

If Gordon was an innocent victim... why is he so damn sorry?

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