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do not buy one, i returned mine after the blades shattered and fu#$ed my cat. they boost like shit anyway. terrible build quality.
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hi basketcase,
have you ajusted your idle yet?
it is probably not helping if its runnung to low. also check your timing and see if its set 20deg
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still waiting for pics dude, its pretty hard to buy something if you dont know what it looks like.
i want the volks and the ssr longchamps. but i need to see pics.
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hey ceffe people,
on saturday www.initialdrift.com.au is holding a drift practice day at eastern creek. its awsome fun with drifting on a wet surface in the first half and dry in the afternoon.
i would love to see some more ceffei there anyone interested?
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hey inark, for real how much do you want for it?
As i am a trained cage fighter i need this bodykit to go with my skills.
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With a bigger fuel pump and coils all sorted out you should see 160-180 rwkw with your combination if u run 1 bar
will "feel like a huge power increase" one the ecu is retuned.
Speak to Toshi on these forums he has done my ECU and did a fantastic job. he has all the equipment to do it properley and will give you a few tuning options too
he charges $250 and its the cheapest power gain you will ever get!
cheers
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No, i'll be taking my car to the silviansw dyno day on the 13th Nov.
I have done some data logging runs though, and my afm maxes out at ~5000rpm at 9psi
youch!
so 210rwkw by the sounds of things...
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they work by creating turbulance in the intake and slowing the amount the inlet can flow at low turbine speed. This inturn increases spool up time. thus lowering the posibility of surge.
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too_much_boost have you had your car dyno'd yet?
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How did you measure yours?
If its a genuine 4.9, then it is very quick
with a g-tech pro.
I am sure it was to do with the tyres i was using. they were as soft as chewing gum.
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ceffie that motor was pretty good 12 months ago it had the head off and it was checked only had aroudn 70000 klms then and the car had 100 and something dont spend the cash till it blows if you want to run up to 200- 220 bolt in an rb 25 there are alot of good reasons for this namely the injectors will handel that much power its torquier etc.
the reason it has a little bit less power than the other cefs is the motor is from an r32 not a cefiro ceffies have bigger cams
yes I'm pretty sure it was my old black ceff
cheers
meggala
Hi Megalla yep its your old car i just didnt want to bug you too much i didnt want to ask you every little detail of the car as its not your problem anymore.
Yeah the engine still seems fine except when i am maximum throttle and rev it to 7k then change gears and give it gas it pings just a little untill the revs get back up over 5k and then its fine.
I have had the A/F ratios checked and they are fine.
mods i have done since having the car
FMIC 600 x 300 + waterspray kit
new injectors just cleaned and flowtested
RB25 turb slightly hiflowed
turb back exhaust 3" "with cat thistime" hehe!
oil catch can
custom air intake/box
bigger fuel pump
Did u do any work on the bottom end Steve? or did you just replace the burnt valve?
Cheers mate
what r u driving now?
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I have done mine a couple of times,
my best time was 4.9 That was on a really good road with Advan tyres.
since then i have shitty falkens and my time has gone back to 5.5 - 5.9 depending on tyre pressure. my crazy japanese freind thinks i am getting good times due to the suspension setup?
I always thought my car was slow because i find it hard to break traction in a straight line.
is 4.9 THAT good?
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I would like to know how much i should budget to rebuild my rb20.
there is nothing wrong with it apart from a few ks on it.
I just want to do a propper rebuild and need to know what to do
I guess get the block chemically cleaned and honed machining journals? how much?
have pistons balanced do i need new pistons? how much?
get the rods balanced?
rod bolts?
bearings, rings, gaskets, valves, springs
having never undertaken a rebuild i dont know how much to budget.
I want the bottom ent to cope with 210-220 rwkw so nothing to special
can anyone recommend a place in sydney that will do the lot for me? ie drop off motor pick up rebuilt later?
can you save cash doing some work yourself?
thanks
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me too i need 2nd hand tyres bad. do you have or know anyone with 2nd hand rims they want to lend/sell me?
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Actually, Nathan @ Grey Imports mentioned this to me but yesterday: to quote him "get your injectors cleaned because you loose a lot of power if they're dirty".
It might also be worthwhile buying a couple of "rebuild kits" (ie kits that contain the little rubber seals).
LW.
Nathan cleaned mine for me, he has a nifty machine that does the job.
take it to him he is in Annandale.
took about an hour to get em cleaned and he is a very freindly guy full of good advice. He cleaned mine for $120. depending on the condition/type they might be more.
I am hopeless writing guides so i cant help there much.
1.you need to remove 2 bolts one on the front and one on the back of the fuel rail.
2. remove the fuel supply and retiur lines from the rail/regulator assembly
3. remove the bolt from the bracket that supports the rail at front under regulator
4. remove injector clips, i did this with tiny long nose pliers, then unplug all the injectors. dont worry about marking them they are all labled.
5. you can now wiggle the fuel rail out about 40mm. you need to take out injector 5 and 6 to get the rail out from under the plenum.
slide the rail out and check the grommets are NOT on the injector bottoms over the pintle cap. make sure there is a grommet in every hole in the plenum.
wiggle out the injectors from the fuel rail. put them in a clean plastic container and take them to cleaning place.
PUTTING EM BACK IN...
when putting injectors in the rail be very careful to push evenly as not to squash the o rings.
put in injector 1, 2, 3, 4 Slide the rail back in place.
once in place replace injector 5 and 6. this is quite hard.
PLUGS!
injector 6 comes from the main harness. injector 5 comes from the wires on the fuel rail and 4, 3, 2, 1 cone from the injector harness and are labled. replace all the clips.
push the injerctors into holes in plenum and bolt the rail in place.
connect up the fuel supply and return lines and bolt the bracket back into place.
repressurise the rail by turning the car back to "on" check for leaks...
drink cold beer and tell your mates how cool you are cause you fix your own car:)
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hel yeah!
there is one on the 20th of november and i will be there...
:rave:
we should cet a full on cefiro crew there. that would OWN! last time i was there there were like 100 dudes wanting to look at the car. Infact lets get some chicks in bikinis to come and stand around our cars too!
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oooh, i dont envy you they are a bitch to take out on the rb25...
on the rb20 its just the 2 bolts that hold on the fuel rail, 2 fuel lines, injector plugs and the master feed injector power line. you dont need to take the plenum off
here is a pic for those of you who are not scared.
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CLEAN YOUR INJECTORS!!!!!!!!!
i just pulled mine out today, the car was running fine but i decided to replace them with a set i just had cleaned to be on the safe side.
when i pulled out the fuel rail i got a nasty suprise. The caps on the end were cracked and the injectors were full of gunk. after flowtesting them 1 was down to 250!!! and 2 were 255. when they should all be 270.
the new set i put in flowed at 285 each.
the responsiveness it much better.
if i didnt replace them the car could have leaned out and gone bang...
if you have bought a car and not had them tested yet it only takes 1 hour to take em out and 1 hour to have em cleaned and an hour to put them back in. you dont know what condition one of the most important things for keeping your engine safe are in.
you wouldnt drive without oil would you?
CLEAN YOUR INJECTORS PEOPLE!!!
here is a quick guide
1.you need to remove 2 bolts one on the front and one on the back of the fuel rail.
2. remove the fuel supply and retiur lines from the rail/regulator assembly
3. remove the bolt from the bracket that supports the rail at front under regulator
4. remove injector clips, i did this with tiny long nose pliers, then unplug all the injectors. dont worry about marking them they are all labled.
5. you can now wiggle the fuel rail out about 40mm. you need to take out injector 5 and 6 to get the rail out from under the plenum.
slide the rail out and check the grommets are NOT on the injector bottoms over the pintle cap. make sure there is a grommet in every hole in the plenum.
wiggle out the injectors from the fuel rail. put them in a clean plastic container and take them to cleaning place.
PUTTING EM BACK IN...
when putting injectors in the rail be very careful to push evenly as not to squash the o rings.
put in injector 1, 2, 3, 4 Slide the rail back in place.
once in place replace injector 5 and 6. this is quite hard.
PLUGS!
injector 6 comes from the main harness. injector 5 comes from the wires on the fuel rail and 4, 3, 2, 1 cone from the injector harness and are labled. replace all the clips.
push the injerctors into holes in plenum and bolt the rail in place.
connect up the fuel supply and return lines and bolt the bracket back into place.
repressurise the rail by turning the car back to "on" check for leaks...
drink cold beer and tell your mates how cool you are cause you fix your own car:)
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great turbo for an rb20 it wil lag, a bit like a t3/4 with a .63 exhaust housing but it will make serious power. i cant remember the exact configuration but there was a model made for the rb20.
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Will be interesting to see if it really makes 200rwkws. Thats pretty good power
i will be getting it dyno'd over the next week roy so i will post resaults with graph as soon as its done
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The ceramic delaminates due to the velocity at the point it meets the metal shaft.
example
the turbine produces 14psi at 100,000 rpm on the rb25, (lets call this point of stress)
then we devide 2500 by 5 20 get 2000 so we also devide 100,000 (shaft speed) by 5 fo get 80,000. So the shaft spins 20% slower to produce the same PSI.
So if you increase the shaft speed to 100,000 on the rb20 you will be spinning it at the same speed as the rb25 but producing around 15-17 PSI
See
These figures are used as an example and do not reflect the actual speeds of the shaft.
As the turbo has a larger compressor, It will produce more volume of air through the valves for a given PSI rating. (more airflow) at a lower temp because it is using less effort to generate the same volume.
In my experience you almost will not notice the difference in spool up time. plus the rb20 turbo drops off at around 6000rpm but the rb25 turb pulls hard all the way to redline!
:rave:
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yep, they are just late model a31 headlights i think they started in 1990.
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you will get 15-20 rwkw difference with no tuning and you can up the boost to 16-17 psi without riskung ceramic in the cat. This combo with a good tune will get you 200rwkw. its a great upgrade.
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sorry guys wastegate sold...
boost controller and injectors still for sale also intercoolerz still available
Cefiro manual in engrish
in Four Door Family
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hey, found this manual for the cefiro do any of you guys have one of these?
anyone want one?
linky manual engrish