yeah thanx shane, i am going to replace them with new ones. its jst the ones that came with thecrossmember etc are stuffed, so i was gonna replace them before i put it it the car. ive got the mechanic across from work looking for them for me, wont cost much to do at all i dont think especially when the crossmember and lower control arms arn't on the car he doesnt have to pull every thinking off.