i know, i know..... its just the insurance, the rego, the fuel ( i drive off boost alot) the fines, the......... And i have a massive tax bill and many other financial issues atm. And i like the civic, its not that bad looking and aparently goes alright. 118kw 1.6L V-TEC @ 1000kg - good figures, i just gotta find one to test drive. Really rare. and i see more 33's than excels on the gold coast. i drove 10km and counte 13 R33 today, a work day.....