Yeah when i saw them that they were 700w (350w RMS) i was like wtf thats bulsht but they go Fckn hard! With them in the box in the boot they make it sound like ive got a sub in the boot, one of the reasons they wouldnt fit in the parcel tray was because the magnets were to big to easily fit in the holes where the standard speakers were. I cant be bothered with the whole sub and amp thing either..