Ok...how about this! Seeing as some people are keen on wisemans and some just want a nice easy cruise, why don't we have two cruises? One starting at 9pm heading to wisemans....and another maybe starting around 10:30...a cruise to terrigal (via old pac or just a nice casual drive?) to meet up with the first group?! That way we can all have pizza on the beach, and then head back to syd together