Handling comparision

[MoonButt]

I was wondering if anyone has ever owned or driven a AW11 MR2??

How would that compare to a R33 GTST. Aside from having more power on tap is it as tossable as an MR2???

[Guest Nismo_Freak]

Yep... the MR2 will have different characteristics but I would expect them to be close on a turn. The Skyline wont be as good on a real techy course but on a wide turn they should do well.

[Steve]

Smaller cars are definately more agile than a larger car - everything else being equal. I find my 'line, with swaybars and decent coilovers is quite nimble but I am sure a smaller car would kill it on really tight corners, just due to being less likely to oversteer - purely hypothetical though.

Steve

[MoonButt]

Thanks... after being in the MR2 for 6 years I'm kinda used to it. Dont want to move up to a Skyline and feel like I'm in a bulldozer.

It's not all about performance but more like the looks, reliability, and handling..... well maybe not performance but performance potential.

Take the MR2 it could go in for a supercharged engine swap but having a semi leadfoot I'll be collecting tickets in no time.

[Steve]

Looks, reliability and handling - if you want all 3 you gotta get a skyline.....lol

[Guest Nismo_Freak]

I hear that... or a S14 would be nice as well. If you want good Nissan RWD handling then get a S14. A GTST wont be able to compair with the same mods. Mostly because if you get down to the basics they are nearly the same car. Just the inline 6 weighs a considerable amount more and has the weight pushed farther forward than the SR20. This makes the car understeer. You can sort some of this out by tuning dampers and sways but in the end your still having that much hurt the performance. The S14 on the other hand has less stock output, less torque, and wont share the prestige of a Skyline. Skyline is a better drag car... I'd take the S14 as a track car. Apart from inter-nissan battles I'd take either of them against any other car. I can think of only a few vehicles that would compair to the power and handling of a GTR. And they all cost more than the GTR, apart from GTOs and Supras. NSX, Z06, Cobra R, Ferraris, Lotus', etc.

[Guest aw11]

i have an aw11sc, it's in my avatar.

they rock and i think you'd have a hard time comparing it to any other 'affordable' car on the road but i'm biased as. so if your willing to compromise then yeah get a nissan! haha just don't blame me. althought if i was spending >25k i'd be looking for a schmick sw20.

*puts on flame suit*

seeya

[Guest Nismo_Freak]

SW20s are awesome cars as well... MR layout and the 3SGTE is a great motor.

[MoonButt]

*puts away flame thrower*

I am planning to keep the AW11. But dont have the heart to have that converted to an SC. When I got it 6 years ago it only had 52,000 km on the clock for a 1987 model. It now has 113,000 and counting.

Reason for the R33 is that I might need the extra seating capacity and the air conditioning.

[MoonButt]

I took a r33 gtst out for a spin yesterday and wasnt all that impressed. Maybe it was because the car was in a severe need of a tuneup or service. Firstly the exhaust was loud at idle and while driving within the posted speed limits. Had me reaching for panadols after 10 mins. And I think the BOV wasnt set right because it kept venting even when changing gears around the 2000-3000rpm mark. Is this normal? One last thing I noticed was that while accelerating to get onto the freeway the car hesitated/stumbled at around the 4000rpm. Is this right or was it just the boost cutting in?

[Guest Nismo_Freak]

Sounds like the spark plugs arent gapped correctly. The dump valve will make a noise at 2000-3000. It shouldnt be loud unless you have built boost. Some valves like the Blitz and HKS feature twin valves (one small, one large) that vent low boost pressures. If the exhaust is loud I'd suspect poor timing, but I've never heard the R33 much less seen one in real life so its hard for me to tell you.

[Gumby]

I know this response is awfully slow, but just stumbled across it and though I could ad something constructive.

I currently own an SW20 (Aust) and an R33 GTR, and I love them both. Completely different to drive but very enjoyable in their own way. Never driven a GTS-T but the GTR feels nothing like it's 1600kg wieght would suggest. I'd imagine the GTS would be much the same.

Can't go far wrong, the MR is a great car, the Nissan also, the MR harder to drive fast on the twisties but that makes for much enjoyment.

Hope this gives some insight.