Jump to content
SAU Community

Recommended Posts

I bought this head for $320 USD for my R34 GTT thinking it was a DET neo head. It was purchased from a gentleman in okinawa japan and i had it shipped to the US. I had the head machined to the proper specifications, with the following performed:

-Clean

-Pressure Check

-Valve Job

-Solid Lifter Adjust

-Re-surfaced

Which totalled to $498 USD. Now, i have no use for this head, and have invested over $850 USD into it. I am just trying to get back some of the money so that i can re-purchase the proper head. If anyone is interested, Please send me an email, or PM.

I need to move this head asap. Thank you all for looking. I will post pictures up within a few days when i can.

-John M

[email protected]

why?

there is no physical difference between the det and de neo heads, even the cams are the same. The only thing that might be different is the springs and it wouldnt cost much to replace those.

why?

there is no physical difference between the det and de neo heads, even the cams are the same. The only thing that might be different is the springs and it wouldnt cost much to replace those.

I assure you that i know it is physically different or else i wouldnt be in this dilemma of selling the head.

I picked up the newly machined head from the machine shop with a bill totalling $498. I went to put the head on and realized it is not the correct head. The intake manifold ports are very different and the overall diameter of the ports is a lot narrower than my previous head. The intake manifold from the R34 DET neo will not bolt onto the head

ORIGNAL NEO HEAD (R34 GTT RB25DET NEO)

th_turbo2.jpg

2nd Head

th_nonturbo2.jpg

why not machine the greddy manifold to accept the de gasket and just run with it?

would be cheaper than a new head...and would give increased port size.

The DET ports are a LOT bigger than the DE ports although it may not seem to be so from the picture. The overall diameter is larger, even though it looks like it bottle-necks on the DET. The CC's inside the head are far smaller than the DET which would result in different CR. Also, the neo DET cams push the valves too far out into the combustion chamber and i believe that the valve timing would overlap if the head was used with the Tomei cams for the DET neo. the machine shop would olny fully instal the exhaust cam, and left the intake cam cams evenly loose to allow the lobes to not depress the lifters which would result in the intake valves hitting the exhaust valves when rotating the cams to set the timing when the pistons are at TDC.

-John

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now


  • Similar Content

  • Latest Posts

    • Yeah, that's fine**. But the numbers you came up with are just wrong. Try it for yourself. Put in any voltage from the possible range and see what result you get. You get nonsense. ** When I say "fine", I mean, it's still shit. The very simple linear formula (slope & intercept) is shit for a sensor with a non-linear response. This is the curve, from your data above. Look at the CURVE! It's only really linear between about 30 and 90 °C. And if you used only that range to define a curve, it would be great. But you would go more and more wrong as you went to higher temps. And that is why the slope & intercept found when you use 50 and 150 as the end points is so bad halfway between those points. The real curve is a long way below the linear curve which just zips straight between the end points, like this one. You could probably use the same slope and a lower intercept, to move that straight line down, and spread the error out. But you would 5-10°C off in a lot of places. You'd need to say what temperature range you really wanted to be most right - say, 100 to 130, and plop the line closest to teh real curve in that region, which would make it quite wrong down at the lower temperatures. Let me just say that HPTuners are not being realistic in only allowing for a simple linear curve. 
    • I feel I should re-iterate. The above picture is the only option available in the software and the blurb from HP Tuners I quoted earlier is the only way to add data to it and that's the description they offer as to how to figure it out. The only fields available is the blank box after (Input/ ) and the box right before = Output. Those are the only numbers that can be entered.
    • No, your formula is arse backwards. Mine is totally different to yours, and is the one I said was bang on at 50 and 150. I'll put your data into Excel (actually it already is, chart it and fit a linear fit to it, aiming to make it evenly wrong across the whole span. But not now. Other things to do first.
    • God damnit. The only option I actually have in the software is the one that is screenshotted. I am glad that I at least got it right... for those two points. Would it actually change anything if I chose/used 80C and 120C as the two points instead? My brain wants to imagine the formula put into HPtuners would be the same equation, otherwise none of this makes sense to me, unless: 1) The formula you put into VCM Scanner/HPTuners is always linear 2) The two points/input pairs are only arbitrary to choose (as the documentation implies) IF the actual scaling of the sensor is linear. then 3) If the scaling is not linear, the two points you choose matter a great deal, because the formula will draw a line between those two points only.
    • Nah, that is hella wrong. If I do a simple linear between 150°C (0.407v) and 50°C (2.98v) I get the formula Temperature = -38.8651*voltage + 165.8181 It is perfectly correct at 50 and 150, but it is as much as 20° out in the region of 110°C, because the actual data is significantly non-linear there. It is no more than 4° out down at the lowest temperatures, but is is seriously shit almost everywhere. I cannot believe that the instruction is to do a 2 point linear fit. I would say the method I used previously would have to be better.
×
×
  • Create New...