whiteline handling pack

[woofy]

I am about to purchase a whiteline handling pack

it comes with front and rear adjustable sway bars,

front castor kit and rear camber kit.

my question is which bushes r included in the handling pack, from my understanding the sway bars come with bushes

are there any other bushes that i should replace while the skyline is out of action?

has anyone fitted one of these kits to their skyline by themselves (i have 93 r33 gts-t)

cheers

[JimX]

I've got the Whiteline swaybars and bushes. They give you new bushes and linkage arms for the rear, and new mounting bushes for the front, but for the front you need to re-use the original linkage arms and bushes to connect them to the suspension arm.

The other bushes are rear suspension arm bushes to reduce camber, and new front castor rod bushes to increase castor.

The fronts are pretty easy to do, just take the radius rods out and take them to a suspension workshop to press the old bushes out and press the new ones in (cost around $20) and then just put them back in the car and get a wheel alignment done.

The rears I haven't tackled yet because it looks a lot more complicated. I think there are 4 bushes per side that need to be pressed out, but you have to remove the whole suspension arms to do it. Once they are out it shouldn't be too hard to get them pressed out and in like the radius rods.

[DJ984]

How much is the whole kit man?

[JimX]

I think it's $750 or so these days. I can't remember exactly but I do remember I got mine just before the price hike and I saved around $150.

[DJ984]

kool... when i actually get around to lowering my car, i wanna do it properly so one of these might be the go...

I wanna have the strut braces, better sway-bars and i want better/new bushes too... so yeah, cheers.

[woofy]

770 is the new price inc gst

jimx do u think that it would be worth while getting the additional bushes that r now included in the handling pack?

[JimX]

Are you talking about the castor and rear camber bushes only? If so then I would get them. I've yet to put my rear camber bushes in but I know it'll improve rear traction when I put them in.

The castor bushes improve the feel of the steering, it will make the steering a bit heavier but it will feel a lot more solid, like you can more easily point the car in the exact direction you want to go. More like a racing car feel

If you mean other bushes (sorry I'm not up to speed on what's in the current kit) then I can't say because I don't have any others. I imagine a front camber kit may be useful, not as useful as the rear though because there's no power to my front wheels. May be more useful on a GTR but even then you're not using the front wheels constantly for power.

[woofy]

cheers jimx u've been a help

i'll take my car apart this weekend and inspect the condition of the other bushes and will prob make my decision based on that

ill let u know how i go with installing the rears

[MrZac]

I have had the handling pack on an R33 GTSt before and it is great ( car had standard ride height, wheels and dampers and springs), and it transformed it. I got it installed on seperate days, and I can tell you the swaybars made the most dramatic difference, particularly the rear one. I believe the castor, camber kits may come into their own if the car is lowered, but I didnt notice must of a difference on my standard ride height car. Maybe look at getting pineapples (whiteline call them KCA???) at the same time as they arent very expensive.

Paid $700ish and $150 labour (included alignment) 18 months ago from Tru Track in North Melbourne, would highly recommend them. Ask for Ralph, he is a funny bloke.

[JimX]

The camber kit is only for if you lower the car. At the standard height the camber is correct. I would say that installing the camber kit without lowering it would be detrimental to handling.

[Sydneykid]

Hi guys, the front and rear camber kits are adjustable, so you can set them wherever you want. So it doesn't matter whether the car is lowered or not, you can both add or subtract camber.

[rs73]

I was told to get the shocks and keep the std sway bars in my R33, as they are already pretty good.

[sidewaymambo]

I had it on for 2 weeks now..very happy, more feed back from steering, can set to more over steer or under, I set it at over and will find out tomorrow in E/C...very happy

[Sydneykid]

Hi rs73, the standard shocks are "already pretty good" but you are changing them. What makes you think that the swaybars are different?

I absolutely guarantee you that a Skyline with standard springs and properly adjusted stabiliser bars will out handle a Skyline with upgraded lowered springs and standard stabiliser bars. Every time.

[rs73]

Hi rs73, the standard shocks are "already pretty good" but you are changing them.  What makes you think that the swaybars are different?

I absolutely guarantee you that a Skyline with standard springs and properly adjusted stabiliser bars will out handle a Skyline with upgraded lowered springs and standard stabiliser bars.  Every time.

Hm, I think you might be right... I talked to whiteline and the guy there recommended that I actually start with the stabiliser bars front & rear first.

Maybe I got it wrong the other way around when was told to change the shocks only not the bar....