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Oh and how many times does a guy have to fork out 100 bucks for dyno time for each chip. Not to mention not bring able to drive the car.

Simply guessing the tune is a horrid way to do things

So it is 500 bucks for the chip + 100 dollars or more for a dyno check, tune is crap, send ecu back fit new chip, another 100 odd bucks on the dyno and repeat

If someone fits your chip and the motor blows up because it detonates itself to bits or melts piston crowns etc will you replace the motor?

Who told you ????

Please give me my customer name.

Dyno operator check knock and AFR properly , engine never blow up .

Also I said if not happy I refund money.

Price is $400 for std turbo and dyno around $80-100.

Yes, around 3% need retune so some time dyno fee x2.

Power will get around 190-200kw AFR11-12 depend customer.

If he will go to race track I will tune to AFR 11.

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Of course not.

The whole point is why get a mail order tune when you can just pay for someone to dyno tune it properly with knock detection and wideband logging equipment. You won't save any money in the long run and you will end up with a 'guess' tune that is far from spot on.

12.5 AFR at peak torque in a country like Australia where we see 40c summers? 'I think' isn't really good enough when you have a two thousand dollars worth of engine to replace if it goes pop.

Sometimes you have to beat a dead horse to get the point across.

Of course realtime tune is better. So Im asking to customer would you like to mail order or real time tune. If customer want to real time tune I will go another state for tune.

But some customer want to remove boost limiter (R&R) and do not want to spend over $500 for ecu.

Many people want to better power and response (not best) but do not want to spend over $1000 for ecu.

I think my mail order remap is good for like this customer.

Many people buy like a mins ecu but I think my remap is much safer.

Because my data is for Australia fuel.

I always explain to customer when hot day please boost down.

Also I told if customer will go race track I will adjust AFR around 11 depends on power. (Many tuner adjusting to AFR 12 so they say AFR11 is too rich but I think around 11 is safer for race track.AFR 11 is normally cylinder temp around 850 degrees)

I can tune for customer request.

If customer want to power I can do it but I will explain for risk.

If customer want to safe tune I can do it but bit lower power.

If customer not happy I never charge.

Who told you ????

Please give me my customer name.

Dyno operator check knock and AFR properly , engine never blow up .

Also I said if not happy I refund money.

Price is $400 for std turbo and dyno around $80-100.

Yes, around 3% need retune so some time dyno fee x2.

Power will get around 190-200kw AFR11-12 depend customer.

If he will go to race track I will tune to AFR 11.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbVKWCpNFhY

LOL

Im sorry about arguments on this thread.

I do not write much forum about tune before because tune is depends on tuner.

But I think we have tell best information on thread now.

Because many people thinking need a lot of money for tune.

I do not think so If its not full tune.

So This times my answer , 370 cc injector is able to make 250kw+ but if you want to go race track I think bigger injector is better.

If you never go to race track 240-250kw not problem.

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