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SNATCH A POINT OFF LOUISE OR PUT HIM IN THE WALL TRYING!

maybe I should be commentating for iTV...picked it a lap before they did

Hamilton apparently dropping off the pace, and seems to be searching for a wet line, so maybe an issue with tires

Ferrari strategy is f**king non existant since Brawn left. Makes me sick

Hamilton consistently has both wheels inside the white line on that chicane...hope they f**kin penalise him again

seems hamilton doesn't mind pushing people off the track so long as its not him being pushed...

so why exactly did Lewis just push Fisichella off the track, forcing him to either yield or cut the chicane...I thought, in Hamilton's opinion, that was unfair....

I've got HD and a nice 46" LCD I could be watching it on, but I still have to watch it on the net 8 times out of 10 due to the parentals watching some shit show that is not F1 on a sunday night.

by the same token, they shouldn't be allowed to be blocking the pitlane like that when the race is technically underway....unless of course pit lane is closed

game over bourdais

Hamilton making excuses as usual...Couldn't do this, couldn't do that. HK did it in the same car, so there's no excuse.

iTV pre race doesn't start for 20 minutes...and thats on iTV, usually starts on the live streams a bit after that

What were you doin there Ferah, and what time did you leave?

Now we just need Kimi to get off the line well, and back Hamilton up all day long. Massa needs to keep it on the track and as deep into the points as possible.

Yep. Vettel Kovalainen Webber Hamilton dead last in Q2, and before everyone blames it on tires, he was 2 seconds a lap slower than P14 Raikkonen when on full wets like the rest of the field. The rain master, P15. Good on Vettel! The boy can drive.

KR took second practice by .070 to the koob

I'd like to see you sit in an F1 car, surrounded by a pit crew, and judge whether or not its safe to merge into the pit lane

Point 4 was added later obviously.. I don't think there should be A, B, C D E F G H..... I think it causes even more problems. If they hit him with B you'd still want to question why they didn't hit him with C instead In this case there seems to be A(drive through) and A1(25 second penalty) At tracks with longer pit lanes, the 25 seconds may even be an advantage over the drive through...

As you've told me so many times, I'm not qualified to make the call. The stewards are in place to do just that. People posting in here have already told you from first hand experience in that department that its not an easy job. You're never going to be the nice guy. My personal opinion on Massa's pit lane exit is that, if anything, Ferrari as a team should be fined, as they're responsible for releasing the driver. In that instance (yes even if it was McLaren) I think it would be wrong to punish a driver unless they were found to break early (before the green light/raised lollipop). It's not like a 10,000 Euro fine is going to phase Massa or Ferrari, but to punish a driver for being released by his team seems wrong in my opinion. As for Kimi, again, I'm not qualified on the specifics of F1 parts. My recolection of that race is that Kimi was pretty much by himself the entire time, so the likliehood of it causing an incident if it had broken off would be reduced in that instance. Maybe that was taken into account. As for point 3, all I'll say to that is what I've said already. I believe that you need to step back and differentiate between the penalty and the result. The penalty for that particular incident is a drive through penalty. The penalty when a drive through cannot be served (last lap of the race, or when the decision is made post race etc) is 25seconds on to the drivers total race time. If Lewis had finished 26 seconds in front of P2, then he would have still finished first, and we wouldn't be having this discussion. He didn't finish 26 seconds in front of P2 or P3, and as a result was classified in P3.

At the end of the day, what you THINK, means sweet f**k all. The stewards believe LH gained an advantage, and punished him accordingly. That punishment just so happened to cost him a win. Your problem is that you are making a connection between the penalty (25 seconds), and the fact that it took him out of P1 and into P3. There is no connection to be made. Can't put it any simpler than that

Oh my. 4 of the drivers that said they agreed with the stewards, said they thought it was a shame that LH was stripped of the win. They didn't say the punishment didn't fit the crime, because it did. The punishment was a 25 second penalty in place of a drive through penalty that obviously could not be served. I'll say it again for your benefit. The punishment was a 25 second penalty, in place of a drive through penalty that could not be served. The penalty was not being stripped of a race win. That was the result of the penalty. It's unfortunate for Lewis that it cost him a win, but he broke a rule and was punished accordingly. Exceptions should not be made because of what the end result may be. Crime A = Punishment A. In this case, gaining an advantage attracts a drive through penalty, or a 25 second penalty, and that 25 second penalty put Lewis in 3rd place.

The answer to more passing in F1 doesn't come by cutting chicanes. I'm the same guy that also said, anyone can pass anyone, if they don't make the corner. Your post on the last page pretty much says that you're happy for anyone to cheat, as long as they're trying to pass. I don't even need to tell you how ridiculous that is.

On another note, I wouldn't say that the majority of drivers are on LH's side... 8 of the 20 current drivers have stated that they agree with the stewards decision. That leaves 12 drivers. Minus the 2 McLaren drivers who are obviously on McLaren's side, and you're left with 10. Now I'm no mathmetician, but that results in a 50-50 split, and thats assuming that the remaining drivers that haven't spoken out, disagree with the stewards.

Yeah, but what the hell would a bunch of F1 drivers know....Nothing, just ask Adam. The first line quoted is absolutely idiotic. The appropriate penalty for gaining an advantage was applied. The fact that it cost LH a win is his bad luck. Because you keep making ridiculous arguments. As for your replies in bold to Troy's post, you have just finished saying that you believe the FIA are manipulating things to make it more of a spectacle for the fans, yet you want them to change the way penalties are applied so that we can watch faster cars having to make their way through the field...So it's ok for them to manipulate races as long as it suits you?

they'll fit but don't do it, what you've got atm is better. I almost bought a set for my car, so glad that I didn't go through with it