Cplus

it all comes down to noise really. you might not hear the difference between $10 and $200 cables, but spending $50 instead of $10 might be the difference between a noisy system. speaker and power - copper is copper pretty much.

for power and speaker cable all you are paying for is flexibility. ie: softer cables that are easier to work with. cause yes, copper is copper. but 4gauge power is like $10 a metre even for jaycar stuff. you'd struggle to use less than 5m in any install, 1m amp neg, 1m batt neg, 3m +ve amp - so there is $50 right there before you even start. Half the cost if you go for 8ga, which is what most people need really. you then need 4 ring terminals ($3 ea for crimps) and two spade (ditto), a fuse holder ($15 round, $25 blade) and fuse ($5 round, $10 blade) $40-50 here. now add 15m of flexi speaker cable for splits, and a few metres of some thick stuff for the sub - $40 easy, even for cheap stuff then, RCA's - now this is where quality can make a difference, not silly $200 RCA's but it is worth spending at least $20 on a decent pair of shielded RCA's, jaycar 2m ones are $18 - you'll need 2 pair in even a modest install. thats $150 for a single amp, 5 speaker setup (mids, tweeters and one sub) it adds up - even for cheap stuff!

to install all the gear above took me about 16hrs all up. Dynamatt alone was about a third! a pro would be half that - with a help, but that is still approaching $700-$1000 to do the work!

well, indeed. I find most people who want to do a "cheap" system don't even consider the cost of cabling at all! $100 would cover shit cabling for a very limited system. I just re-looked at my system list from two years ago; Deck - $450 ($699 RRP now) front stage - $560 ($899 RRP now) sub - $350 ($469 RRP now) amp - $560 ($999 RRP now) - fark me that was a bargain Dynamatt - $290 ($350 RRP) Cables - $194 (RRP probably double!) Custom Enclosure - $259 it's basic in terms of complexity, but installed well with GOOD components. my system is pretty balanced with good SQ and not outrages in terms of install - apart from the boot and the deck, you wouldn't know it wasn't stock until you turn it on. also shows how easy it is to spend $4K in audio

a good amp can make a cheap sub sing compared to a lesser amp. a shit amp driving the worlds most expensive sub will always sound crap. Budget first, rest will follow. budget for a "budget" system should along the lines of; Front Stage $300 Sub $200 Amp $500 double all those numbers and you've got my own system budget if you haven't got $1000 to spend, don't look at amps and subs IMHO. the $100 or so cable costs would likely scare you off too.

205/55/16 and 225/50/16 please

ditto

Simon - posted on NS too, but would you be willing to swap out/adjust with cash some replacement engine bits for your stocks ones? BOV for example? also after a few little interior nick knacks, some stock clips, defroster vent and the like - is it largely complete?

PM GGG mate, he has one.

Have a few things i've just pulled out for sale - literally just pulled out, still covered in dust, dirt and double sided tape untill I clean 'em up; 12in Pioneer Sub in factory wedge box, small amount of scuff, not a world beater in terms of SQ but will get loud with some grunt up it. - $150 Alpine V12 MRV-T502 getting on now, but top of Alpine's line in the day. 2x75w or 1x300w RMS @ 14.4V offically, but known to make more than this on their birth certificates - $175 Blaupunkt GTA4100 4x50w or 2x150w RMS amp, not massive but fine for running some splits and a single subwoofer - $125 HKS Turbo Timer push button style, bit of wear on the off button - easy to use works fine, LED display all working. - $40

did you find the BOV? also after the plumb back pipe if you have it?

have you got any interior items?

what are you trying to achieve with the system? what is your budget? who will install it?

still got the gauges mate?

have you got; - stock air box? - stock BOV assembly? (including plumb back pipe) - drivers side "upper" dash vent? the small one near the bottom of the A pillar - drivers A pillar trim? (without srew holes) what condition is the dash in - any lifting/bubbles?

this won't be pretty.....

after some 17's for my R32, conditon of tyres not super important. like the look of the factory rims, but willing to look at others around 17x8 or so. prefer Adelaide pickup, unless shipping is cheap. cheers.

after some 17's for my R32, conditon of tyres not super important. prefer Adelaide pickup, unless shipping is cheap. cheers.

Howdy, after a standard airbox (without broken clips) and a stock BOV complete with the plumb back pipe. have an aftermarket atmo BOV that could be used as part trade aswell if interested. prefer pickup in Adelaide, but happy to neg. with interstate. cheers, C+

got the stock airbox or BOV assembly?

got a stock GTS-t airbox and BOV?

ah, the good old "dick and balls" engraving, good to see it is gaining more popularity!

what sort of revs is the peak? seems pretty fat from low down - nice.

via this link one would presume http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/Rb...mo-t273704.html

bloke on PF i know is selling some. http://www.performanceforums.com/forums/sh....php?t=67243441