FineLine

The top level of rallying is as respected by the community at large as any other form of motorsport.. The bravado on display at rally events is amazing and I for one am in complete awe of the driving talent of the dirt trackers. However when you have to walk from your car through a mountain of shit to get a vantage point to watch a drift event it isnt excactly inspiring. Dirty cars are the norm at a rally event but even they attempt to clean them up for the sake of sponsors between the stages. A sealed event like a drift race offers no excuse for a dirty car other than the usual rubber spray around the rear quarters. I doubt there is a form of motor sport that I am not interested in from billy kart racing to tractor pulls to F1 and the good news is, there are plenty of motorsport events to choose from without having to wade through acres of rubbish and unkempt people to see it.

Makes the world go round.

Approximately 30 years ago I became involved in drag racing via the usual street scene channels. In those days draggin was looked upon in much the same light that drifting is today. We were the hoons, the street racers, the bodgies or whatever other derogatory title you wish to bestow. I gave it all away and did the marriage kid deal till now i have the time to do it all again. I am so impressed with the way ANDRA and others have progressed drag racing to where it is right now. The winter nats just finished and i could not help but be amazed by the crowd and the demographics relating to. There were mums and dads with nippers in tow, grand dad and grandma. Lots of couples all reasonably well dressed and very well behaved. The grounds were relatively clean given the crowd size and the no alcohol rule is well supported and appears to be a major positive. The car parks were full of late model family sedans, wagons, and 4wd's denoting a wide acceptance of the sport by middle class Australia. The race teams are proffessionally presented and sponsor banners are thick on the ground. All in all the sport has come from obscurity to one of wide acceptance and public support. I recently dropped by qld raceway to have a look at a drift comp and I can honestly say drifters get what they deserve, Maybe not all of them but compared to the drag racing fraternity they are grubs. How in hell do you expect to attract corporate support when the best you have to offer is a sense of dress that can at best be described as slovenly. The filth and litter just thrown on the ground was worse than any football crowd I ever saw. Drink bottles, food packets. worn out tyres, bits of cars just left laying on the ground. The drift cars themselves were generally untidy and not at all of a standard of finish you could present to a national tv audience much less expect Joe public to pay good money to come and watch. Some of the driving skills were darn good but on the whole i certainly wouldnt bother returning to see more of the same. I am not a snob. I am working class and somewhat of a bogan but it isnt rocket science to see why the drift scene is wallowing at the gate and cant really get up and running.

Easy Peasy! spend most of it on hot women and just waste the rest.

Heres some fun for yall. http://www.sauqld.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=140

I approached the people at willowbank raceway with a view to allowing clubs to use their facility for show and shine, swap meets etc. They seemed quite keen to find extra uses for the venue but i still havnt heard back. Might have to revert to the "Keegs" idea.

Predator motor sport in Moss street slacks creek can do all the above.

Happy born day Col. :sorcerer:

sigh! Youth is wasted on the young.

Piss orf, I have had enough urchins try to claim me as their papa over the years.

Your eminent demise on that forum will be tinged with a small amount of sadness and a large dose of humoresque.

Fighting a mod on his own forum is akin to pissing in the wind mate. you are on a hiding to nothing. cut your losses and bail.

sigh!

sigh!

Bloody Nora Mike go easy! Real racing also involves a minumum out lay of megabucks and an on going budget that could feed a family. These are peeps kickin back and havin some weekend fun. Most of them dont earn what it would take to run a real race car so they find their fun as best they can. Having attended a skidpan day I must say theres a lot of fun to be had just buzzin around on a wet track letting it all hang out without fear of having a megadollar breakdown or worse. It may interest you to know that there are some useful driving tips to be gleaned at these days as well. Now get to bed!

Oh no Eug. How could you stand all those people grovelling at your feet and kissing your ass. :laughing-smiley-014:

So Eug could get dusted by a gogomobile huh. :laughing-smiley-014:

Why? It wasnt Allstar that claimed there was another side to the story. It was you. Back it up. I am not taking sides on this issue. I have been around too long to think that any workshop regardless of how good they are will not have in house issues and or unpleaseable customers from time to time. In this case however the poster has been quite forward in stating his experience with this particular outfit and on face value it would appear his grievance is justified. If you or anybody else is in a position to refute that It would do more good than harm . And Shane...STFU.

Weight of numbers dude. I think there were only 3 lines nominated in a field of over 600 cars. Most divisions were hotly contested with up to 40 cars vying for a spot in the final 16. In a nutshell the night belonged to bogan ville and will do for a long time to come. As impressive as the lines are there is no substitute for cubes when it comes to dig racin. They have the torque to consitantly launch time and again with less than 1000ths of a second between their run times. The small capacity imports are too knife edged to maintain the launch consistancy of the heavy iron. Too many revs it flares up in wheelspin and not enough sees it bog down, Changing track conditions make it extrememly difficult to get it right time after time and that is what is required to be succesful at a big meet like the winter nats. It was a good meet, I managed to spend at least a couple of hours at the track each day and despite the oildowns and the waiting the racing was of a standard Australia has never seen before. Some classes had every qualifier running under the national index. Quite astounding really. Heres another tip, If you decide to go bogan go straight to the top and run bowtie equipment, The only place in the finals for the blue oval was in the dial your own slow arse street titles. Cheverolet owned it and owned it in near all classes all weekend. F.O.R.D.....F.ucked O.n R.ace D.ay.

Well I am off to the drags. cya later .

drags is for fags

f**k orf you rice munchin sob.

Aint it a f**ken hoot. Obviously got his gob stuck on the crack pipe.

For a brief moment i thought it was you Eug. :laughing-smiley-014:

I can understand you being in awe of the silver fox himself.