yeah no detonation in 6 just bit more oily than others, looks to be no holes in block but will see after get motor out i guess, seems it may have been quick break, but we we also see,thanks guys i hope its not that bad either,give my a good reason for new rings etc maybe more,see what $ are like after xmas, thanks to you roo for coming over for our boys session,looks to be you help me i help you at moment, always cool, chat to you on wkend