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Getting a bit on the gay now fellas.....

Maybe my black 33 needs blue mesh then hey.... no fker takes notice of it the moment!!!! You guys forgot the JDM decals which add serious amounts of rwkw.... so cost effective really too and virtually undefectable so long as they're not nin the middle of your windscreen

Not yours I hope....?

Maybe you need to go back over my other posts in regards to the incident....

Of course not. I guess the point I've been trying to make is there's a difference between racing accidents and racing accidents, some are more accident than others... Differing opinions are what make great forum threads...

I'm pretty sure the only thing they could get me for is having a wider track (back) than is standard.

No. Go dig out Spa 1998 GP!

I agree. Don't get me wrong, there are racing accidents and these are always going to be a part of any motorsports. I (me) don't think you can compare what Mark did by deliberately moving across on RB as in the same category as clashes of wheels and pods when drivers are vying for position. So true

We'll agree to disagree then because if you seriously think that the incident last night was like any other F1 GP start then you haven't been watching many of them..... What if the contact did cause damage.... colossal accident potentially causing harm/death at those sorts of speeds. A stalled car or broken clutch is like trying to drive someone of the track... how so? But it didn't happen..... does that mean that a employer not acting on a 'near miss' or 'incident' report because it didn't happen are not liable for what happens next time? You can take Webber's own account of what happened and believe what you will, at the end of the day was there a need to move across at Rubens? We're not talking about a 2nd gear corner here..... And I have one eye welded shut? Geezus you Webber fanboys should go back over what's in this thread..... If you didn't know any better you'd think the guy just won his 8th WDC!!! Fact is he won his 1st GP. Youi're a moderator (and I know this has nothing to do with it) and most of what I've seen you post makes 100% sense, not this one eyed nonsense. How do you make that one Kimi's fault? Oh that's what the commentary said didn't they.....

That's what my problem with it was, he made contact with Rubens

Tell me about it....

His mate and former team mate too....

Schumacher was also crucified and punished for his transgressions! Reminds me how Schuey got the blame for the incident in Adelaide in 1994 with Damon.... Funny thing is though, Damon pulled the same ambitious move on Schuey not even a year later in Silverstone but this time it was somehow deemed Hill's fault. Of course.... this time it wasn't for the World title and this time the British commentators didn't feed horseshit down the throats of TV viewers! Anyone remember what the Un-Australian Mark Webber did to Schuey in Monaco 2006..... and for what.... 1 grid position!!!! Just imagine had that been a British or Australian driver who avoided colliding with the wall at Rascasse in qualifying!!! They would've called that a great save or some shit....

I've always wondered how this one would work too.... I have many many enemies.

I know there are obviously many Webber fans in here and I have absolutely nothing against that, but I'm trying to work out from an unbiased point of view how any of you guys think Mark was penalised too heavily???? I appreciate the patriotism, but c'mon guys get real... and no I'm not trying not start a flame war. Just think honestly for a moment about how different it would've been had Rubens been the Aussie in that near colossal accident, that's all I'm saying.

You must be kidding right..... Mark unlucky for trying to run Rubens off the road!!!!

Unfortunately I've been listening to biased British commentary for about the last 24 years....

Mark wins 1 GP in about 130 starts and you guys are comparing him to Schuey and Senna....

Denon have always made good consumer grade audio gear, I'm not sure about their Pro Audio stuff but I'm thinking it can't be bad with the Denon name on it, same for Pioneer. With Mixers (and built in effects), it's like most things..... you get what you pay for. Depending on where they're made and components used will dictate price to a certain degree. I'd rather have japanese made capacitors/inductors/op amps/transistors that are accurate (and made for the application) especially in an EQ then shithouse chinese junk in a useless built in effects processor which might sound OK when soloing individual tracks/channels but will sound shit in a mix. Depends also on how you're going to use a bit of kit too. I wouldn't care to use cheap shit in a live situation but would think twice in a recording environment. Recordings potentially last forever, live performances are soon forgotten by yourself and even sooner by punters and realistically 95% of the punters wouldn't know the difference between a $10K Neve/SSL/API EQ or a $150 Behringer/Alto EQ.... not live anyway!

Don't touch the Behringer stuff if reliability is what you're after....

PM sent Richie

true. You getting a black 350Z? Now that'd look fkn hot!

Nice 1 Mick, enjoy. Tonight practice session as always gives a better indication on how qualifying and the race pan out....

So true. LOL!

Have you checked fuses? I highly doubt it would have anything to do with the conversion.