All of the above....not that I've seen fortza first hand yet. I was impressed that forza was a release title though.
Next week guys !! I just pre-orded mine from JB for $79......no collectors edition, here's 1million credits and 24 cars nonsense for me. I had no problem with just adding a few cars, like the chromeline of the last game, but the cash is just stupid. The game should be hard and slow to get going, so you can learn to drive before killing yourself in a million dollar car around the green hell, or bathurst!!!