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PVA - staying on topic, just goto your nearest license center, get the book, flick thru it and go straight into doing the learner's test. It's so easy it's not funny. Then get some lessons and get some experience on the road. Once you get confident and realise the fact that all cars are trying to kill you it becomes very easy.

You'll be restricted to a 250 for the first year, but I guarrantee it'll be worth the wait. Any std sports bike worth anything will do at least a 11.5 - 12 second pass on the 1/4.. mine is 14 years old and will still crack a 12.. :P

Heres what i did !!

went to licenceing centre and sat a 16 question multiple choice test to get my learners permit (just a peice of paper with your name on it saying you have your L's)please note i did not study for this test, if you can't answer 16 simple road rule questions you probably shouldnt have a bike. I have ridden my bike (RGV250) for the last year & have never been pulled over for anything. From here i am only going on say so, it is ilegal not to have a fully licensed ridder either as a pillion (go figure) or ridding along side u on another bike, but if caught is a $50 fine and no loss of points on first offence (only here say) I have loved having my bike its the first bike i have ever owned and has been a real eye opener to my own driving habits on the road. I will try to get my full licence soon but i will never be with out a bike again.

Where else can you get a machine that does a flat

12sec quater for less than $2000!! I love it its great

Terry

Originally posted by 33Spec2

A bike! if ya crash youd b lucky 2 survive which i think is a bit scarey

I know plenty of people who have crashed their bikes and not died. Thats a GROSS exaggeration. While the death rate might be higher on bikes, to say youd be lucky to come out alive is a bit melodramatic.

PVA, im sure the process has been covered in the topic now, but have you thought about bike selection? Personally if i wanted to get my confidence up and get used to being out there with no metal around me, id go for something like a ZZR250. My brother started out with one and theyre great little bikes. Because its a 4 stroke you dont quite have the power on tap, but it's still 14 second 1/4 mile sorta acceleration. Way back when, my bro picked a 91 model up with low k's and immaculate condition for 3800. Probably worth about 2k now.

You could go a 2 stroke, but personally, if you want to go really fast, wait until youve got your big bike permit and get yerself something with 1000cc's and a jap name on the side.

Italian bikes have crap electrics.... and besides, most other bike riders will think your a wanker for riding one :P

Then once you can do a one handed nac nac you can join up with the Perth Extremes. (BTW thats a one handed wheelie with your legoff one peg and in the air behind you :D)

Red17

Guest Rhino

I wanted to get a bike license a while back but seeing a guy get killed in front of you tends to put an idea like that out of your head.

Bikes arent the problem its moron car drivers who dont bother looking. A friend of mine had an accident Wed. on his bike because some lady didnt see him, luckily it was just cosmetic damage to the bike and him.

Red17

Agree with you on the ZZR250, I had one as my first bike and they are so easy to ride especially when not experienced. I remember Two Wheels voting it the best bike for beginners a few years ago. My mate wanted me to get an RZ250 (read: 2 stroke racing bike) but I said no, too damn quick for a beginner.

Joe, get something that you will be able handle and migrate upwards from there. Like with cars, start off slow and build up from there.

They are great fun and as long as you are sensible, you shouldn't get into trouble with them.

Cheers, Al

I own a zxr250c 92 model & have great fun with it! If you want to have the most performance on your restricted licence then the RGV would be the best, but if you like me want low maintenance & still reasonable (ie better than gpx/zzr/vtr) performance go with a zxr/cbr they are much better but more costly to buy!

And remember!

1. Always ride fast enough to stay out in front of the tintops & be prepared to cop the fines etc!

2. Make sure you are capable of riding the bike well enough to keep away from the tintops!

3. Treat EVERY car driver as thou they are trying to kill you because whether it's deliberate or not they are!

PVA,

I'm a bit late in on this thread, so I apologise if I'm going over old ground here. Good on you for considering a two-wheel option for transport. Bikes are immense fun, and going fast on one is a completely different sensation to going fast in a car. Note: I didn't say *better*, just *different*. Um - very different. Best description I heard from someone is that "They warp time."

I started on a ZZ-R250, did 12 months on it then graduated to my open class and a GSX-R750. Although the ZZ-R was pretty gutless as far as bikes go, it served it's purpose: roadcraft development. Riding as though everyone else is on a mission to punt you into the scenery becomes second nature after a couple of weeks. Don't spend mega-$ getting a "fast" 250, just get something harmless, do your 12 months, get all you can out of the experiences and then go the big bike. There is LIGHT YEARS between even an RGV250 and a big supersport. Power, handling, brakes, it's a different world. And you'll probably be able to sell your 250 for close to what you paid for it to the next learner on the block.

I did my open class with Alert Motorcycle school. I have no vested interest in them, btw, but they were an excellent crew and a couple of friends have used them as well for their 250 and open licenses. After 12 months on the 250, I had a 90 minute lesson on a CB400 then clean sheeted the exam immediately afterwards. Unfortunately I could not recommend my 250 license tutor, so I'll remain quiet on that score.

Have someone take a camera to your first test ride on a big bike after the 250 period. 99% of the people I know with bikes had the same look on their face and the same reaction - "I cracked it open and it tried to get out from underneath me."

Be careful, keep your eyes open and expect people to just do the most STUPID, UNBELIEVABLY MORONIC stuff. Indicate left and turn right is a favourite; as is looking you right in the eye and pulling straight out in front of you, then at the next set of lights claiming they didn't see a blue, white and dayglo-orange motorcycle with dichroic headlights on.

Also, be aware that most drivers simply have no idea how fast a supersports motorcycle (or a fast car, let's not discriminate) can accelerate. So they might do everything right and still find you occupying the roadspace they desire. When you can go from standstill to 100km/h in a tickle over 3 seconds, you can surprise the heck out of people. I know I have! :D

Good luck and Godspeed, young man!

Aitch.

Guest MODADDIE

stay away from 2 strokes as most insurance companies are not insuring them, a zzr250 or gpx 250 is always a good option, i am a little biased as i work at a kawasaki shop.

no you dont always die in a motorcycle accident but if ya do the crime ya pay the fine in any vehicle......

most crashes are low speed and 95% will walk away with nothing but a bruse and dented pride..

get your licence and enjoy the ride..

plus for $20000 you can bike a stock 1200cc motorcycle that runs 10.4 second 1/4 mile :) trying get a car to do that....

Guest MODADDIE

thats cool but i a mean a STOCK car....

our zx12r 03 model at work put out 171hp at the rear wheels and a stocker puts out 150hp we could still only run 10.3seconds with all the extra HP. is there any cars that are out there that you can think of that are stock and can run those sorta times?? i am fairly new to the car seen and cant think of any stock cars that run that fast...

not starting an argument just a general question... :)

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