What sorta power should i be getting?

[sLo-32]

What sorta power should i be getting @ the wheels out of my RB20DET ECCS with the following mods :

* 3 inch dump pipe into a 3 inch hi-flow cat, 3.5 inch zorst from the cat back

* 10 psi of boost

* k & n pod type air filter

I got it dynoed and wasnt too impressed with the outcome, not that i was expecting big horsepower but this wasnt much of an improvement from the standard power output. I got 160hp @ the wheels.

You guys reckon this is a pretty accurate reading or is the something wrong with the car?

cheers

sLo

[rev210]

power? you should use 240V AC if your in Australia.

Seriously, don't worry about comparing dyno figures except with your own from the same day and dyno.

Is 160rwhp too low? Probably not. Why don't you see how fast you car is. If it's too slow for you modify it some more.

If beating other people in a dyno comparison is what you like to do then knock yourself out.

[skylark]

I had exactly the same mods and made 109kw at the wheels with 10psi.

I will not put my car on the dyno again unless I have added a substantial mod and want to see what I have gained or am getting something tuned at the time.

Trying to keep a handle on maintanence negates me modding extensively at present.

I feel slow sometimes and when that happens I go drive my g/f's mirage or someother sh*tbox and then get back in my car again. Trust me you will feel the difference!

edit-sorry, tell a lie I only had a catback on the dyno.

[itsallgood]

slo-32 - I got 114rwkw when i had mine done last Thursday. Had the same problem as you with timing i saw in an earlier post of yours, except my timing had been set wrong. Started at 70kw and i thought what the! after that they realised the timing had been set wrong and ended up getting 114 very happy with it.

Mods i have are pod and turbo back exhaust and running 14psi i think on the Apexi AVC-R i had installed on the same day. Nor unless they did the power run at 12psi, but dont think so. Cant wait to see what it'll do with a few more mods i wanna do like cooler and bigger turbo

BTW - what is conversion of hp to rwkw?

[Chris32]

Mine was 143rwkw with Trust element in the stock airbox, HKS Super Drager cat back exhaust and Supra front mount cooler, stock boost.

With a pod filter, front pipe, custom FMIC it made 153rwkw at stock boost

Chris

[sLo-32]

itsallgood : 160rwhp = 119rwkw i think...well around that

Chris32 :

With a pod filter, front pipe, custom FMIC it made 153rwkw at stock boost

... 153 rwkw?! You sure you dont mean hp? Surely a FMIC doesnt give you that much power does it? Correct me if i'm wrong.

Cheers

sLo

[Guest INASNT]

Originally posted by sLo-32

itsallgood : 160rwhp = 119rwkw i think...well around that

Chris32 :  ... 153 rwkw?! You sure you dont mean hp? Surely a FMIC doesnt give you that much power does it? Correct me if i'm wrong.  

Cheers  

sLo

yes u r very wrong, fmic gives u about 30rwkw gain at same boost level over stock cooler.

Stock cooler is the biggest restriction in the whole system.

[hippy]

wow that much?? or have u just turned the boost up with the cooler??

[Guest INASNT]

no same boost 12psi.

just remember the stock cooler is meant for around 7psi, and it location doesent help it cool down either

[Brody]

I remember alot of ppl saying a fmic doesn't really do shit with a 32? Either way i should have mine back (fkn taxi ran me off the road) in around another month. She comes back with a micks metalcraft 600x300x76 so ill be able to comment

With stockbox, 3" exhaust str8 thru, 10 psi, and timing on around 30 (no pingage pphhoaarrwww) we were on around 138rwkw.

What have other ppl noticed that have swapped to a fmic in a 32?

[Guest INASNT]

people who say fmic dont make a difference obiliously dont have one or have even had one!

30 degrees timing?? wtf? r u runing c21 race fuel??

[rev210]

I've run 35degrees base timing on regular bp98. About 25-30degress at the moment.

fmic will always make a difference. The peak power will be higher for sure. The only problem is some 'oversized' fmic packages will lose response over the factory and make the car slower to accellerate over 400m.

[Guest INASNT]

whats do they run stock 15 degrees?

[Brody]

30c Everything was running pretty well, felt nice

In the end it was pinging from 5000rpm and up on high boost. Think the fuel pump was going which has since been replaced with a bosch 600hp pump. When it comes back with a fmic, up goes the timing again

[Brody]

Originally posted by INASNT

people who say fmic dont make a difference obiliously dont have one or have even had one!

I agree with you totally, though from everything ive read, suggests that without say a new turbo etc, changing the IC on a 32 doesn't make a great deal of difference.

Now ive seen 100 of ure posts saying "omg my fmic gave me 30wrkw" , im just wondering what i should be expecting...5? 10? 30?

[sLo-32]

Yes INASNT...I have never had a FMIC. In fact this is my first turbo car and still learning alot about them. And I am learning a great deal from you guys at this forum.

The only reason i questioned the power gain from a FMIC is becuase i've been in a s14 with a cooler and one without and the one without went alot harder / better. And they pretty much had the same mods. But i now know there is many factors that could have made this be.

Thanks again

sLo

[rev210]

sLo-32,

The reason the s14 without a fmic went harder is due to the reason I posted most likely.

[Guest INASNT]

yes rev is right, everything surves a purpose, no point putting on a intercooler off a 1000hp car on your 300hp car. Bigger isent always better.

[Chris32]

I never dyno'd it with the stock cooler, but I reckon it was around 120rwkw. As I said before, with the 7MGTE Supra cooler it made 143rwkw, and with a proper custom job it made 153rwkw. All with no change to the stock boost.

Currently its making 198rwkw with a HKSGT2510 and a re-mapped computer and decent intercooler.

I'd recommend a bigger intercooler to any one with a stock cooler, the amount of extra grunt thats lost through the stock cooler is a joke, and retaining it is also a joke - bigger is better!

[Chris32]

Also KW not HP!