Gauge Cluster

[inthisglass]

Ok i have gone through countless threads to try find an answer to my question but to no avail.

Either the Question is so dumb that know one dares to ask it or i just cant find the answer in the 11ty billion pages of information we have here.

the question is, will an r33 turbo dash cluster work on a non turbo 33?

i know the boost gauge will be useless and can sit dormant for all i care but im just curious as to whether all the other bits will still function correctly.

the reason i ask is that my non turbo cluster has, to put it simply got too many problems with it and is a piece of rabbit poo.

i have been around to a few wreckers and looked through the for sale sections but no one seems to be wrecking a non turbo r33. (either they arn't fast enough to loose control of or N/a drivers are safer)

Turbo clusters are a much easier item to source..

so was just wandering if anyone knows whether it will work or if anyone would like to sell me there non turbo gauge cluster

any replies/info would be much appreciated.

cheers for reading my long post.

Karl

[GTS4WD]

I dont see why it wouldnt..

I tend to think of these things logically.. why would Nissan make two diff clusters?.. Cos then they would need all new new machinery etc. etc. etc. its just not feasable..

Everything is mechanical.. When i took my cluster out.. I didnt see anything that would change from an NA to a turbo..

My 32 came trubo.. not has a 33 NA.. cluster works fine.. so, logically, it would work vice versa..

Whats in the space of the boost guage?.. Is it like the 32's where theres a new circular guage that reads the boost?..

[unarmed_skyline]

turbo one should work fine, i have a series 2 nismo turbo one working fine one mine i upgraded. I still got my old na series 1 cluster in the shed its got around 70kms on the clock im in melb if you want to buy it, work 100% i never had any probs with it

[inthisglass]

ok cool.

just weighing up my options whether itll be cheaper to have a monster tacho installed in front of my non working tacho, buy a turbo cluster from a wreckers or now ship an N/a cluster from melbourne to Perth.

any one want to sujest what i should do?

cheers

[R33_Rob]

id say buy the non turbo CLUSTER. It will also make your car more appealing when you go to sell it ( it wont look like you have mismatched parts).

EDIT: I put non turbo tacho, but i meant non turbo cluster. hope you figured that out

Edited November 27, 2007 by R33_Rob

[GTS4WD]

Dont monster tacho it..

Its a + wanker factor of 5092834098 SQILLION!

If there isnt much of a difference between the two clusters.. just get the NA one..

[unarmed_skyline]

well whats the wreckers what to charge?>? im sure i could come in cheaper including postage, wreckers charge a fortune for clusters, ill have to get a qoute on postage but im sure it'd be less than $20

[inthisglass]

All very good points thanks guys.

and i have decided on the N/a one from melb. Just because it will look better with the N/a cluster and i do agree that the monster tachos are much more suited to the falcodore boys.

the cheapest i found at the wreckers was $230!! i didnt really want to pay that much but was going to just because i hate not having a tacho and a fuel gauge that changes like the wind.

so please, if your willing to sell yours for cheaper i will gladly buy it and pay for shipping

cheers

Karl.

[unarmed_skyline]

hey Karl, if you want it i could sell my cluster for $150 including postage, and ill gaurentee it working 100% i never had any issues with it, and its low km's 70ish something km's which havent been wound back, car didnt have abs or airbag's dunno if they different clusters but i assume so as my current cluster is using my na wiring loom with no abs or airbags although the lights come on, i assumed the lights worked on the wiring rather the cluster but ey not to much of a prob cause ill just be taking the lights out cause i dont have that stuff.

oh if you do have any prob which im sure you wouldnt ill be more than happy to refund less delivery charge,

send me a pm to orginise details.

if there anymore parts you need just give me a pm, i have a spare complete interia and most ancillariery for an na, the advantage of buying a complete shell and swaping engine and wiring over

[GTS4WD]

Theres a GTS R33 for wreaking ATM on the for sale section.. I remeber seeing it a little while ago

[Eug]

sensors should all be the same (except for boost of course), i don't see why not.

[inthisglass]

$150 for cluster and postage to W.A Deal!

ill send you a pm about payment details etc

cheers

Karl.

[unarmed_skyline]

pm replied

-Jarrod

[H@ME]

sensors should all be the same (except for boost of course), i don't see why not.

hey guys i may be a bit late posting information in this thread but when i did my turbo conversion on my N/A r33, the spedo does not work the same (it actaully approximatly 1/2) now this could be from a few different reasons.

- the sensors are different

- the diff ratio's are different?

anyhow my mechanic said by putin in the turbo r33 cluster this will fix the problem, however, this also happens appartently when putting rb25's in r32's.

just a thought..

so to be safe, go the N/A cluster if you can...

hame

[GTS4WD]

hey guys i may be a bit late posting information in this thread but when i did my turbo conversion on my N/A r33, the spedo does not work the same (it actaully approximatly 1/2) now this could be from a few different reasons.

- the sensors are different

- the diff ratio's are different?

anyhow my mechanic said by putin in the turbo r33 cluster this will fix the problem, however, this also happens appartently when putting rb25's in r32's.

just a thought..

so to be safe, go the N/A cluster if you can...

hame

diff

I read on a thread somewhere else on the forum.. Its a common issue.. My speedo reads 110km/h when Im doing ~100km/h..

Its good though.. helps me not speed.. because.. if im under the speed limit on my speedo.. means im yonks away from it in real life..

anywhoo..

The only way you can fix the problem is either:

a) swap diffs

b) find the appropriate gear that you need on your guage cluster to correct the speed.. is is.. a big pain in the arse.. and extremly hard to find as production has stop of the part..

so really..

just know it reads over.. stick to the speed limit on your cluster.. and you'll never be caust speeding..

[unarmed_skyline]

there is also another way to correct it without sending it for spedo recalibration (very expencive)

On my Dads 4by when he got his big wheels the speed was out by 10 or so kms and he bought this little spedo corrector box was bout 100 or 200 bucks and it runs inbetween the speed sensor and the speedo and you can choose how much it manipulats the speed by

oh ps he bout my na speedo cluster off me anyways so its not an issue but yeh

Edited December 3, 2007 by unarmed_skyline

[H@ME]

yeaha i don't want to swap the diff as it a nice low ratio one which gives good excelleration, i was told to just put in a gts-t cluster and this will fix the problem, however i like mine as it GREEN like my car..

you think this would solve the problem?

[unarmed_skyline]

with yours why dont you just grab the sensors off your na stuff, the speedo cluster i wouldnt think has any sensors in it it just moves by what the sensors tell it, if that doesnt work then yeh i can find out the name of the thing my dads got, he had to wire it in so i assume its universal and would solve your problem if changing the sensors doesnt