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hyperdrive are the ones that do the $800 install and tune package, but they dont remove the plenum, to remove the plenum ur looking at an extra $500 or so, thats what i was told.. heaps of people have had theirs installed with the plenum in, but i havent heard any problems.. if there were problems, i guess they wouldnt do it anymore?

Hyperdrive did my old engine and never removed the manifold for drilling. It was my choice and I decided it would be ok. Car was fine for 2 years then got XSpeed to build the stoker for it.

Maybe I was lucky, don't know. But at the end of the day it's alloy and only a fraction gets in.

so would it be ok to just hook the map sensors up to a vacuum port? not tap the manifold. i have a vacuum distrubition block on my brake booster line(its inline on the hose between the manifold and brake booster) i was planning on running each map sensor to each of its own ports. would that work? or do i really have to tap the manifold(frowns) its so hard to take off once the motors in the car.

No ignore the post above yours, i would bet the tuner that tuned his was useless as the differrence between them setup up correctley is more that noticeable.

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