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I noticed around these forums that many skyline drivers in Perth are drafters or work within the building/construction trade. I have been looking to go back to tafe in the coming new year studying residential drafting and have applied to enrol however it has been brought up to me that some companies around perth are actually hiring people to do complete the drafting course but through the company ie. Traineeship. Thus still get paid to do a job and learn it at the same time.

I have searched around for a while now looking to see if some places are considering trainees but it seems the places i have tried already have trainees or dont do the traineeship thing...

Just wanting to know if people know places or anyone who is familiar with this sorta thing or has any info what so ever?

I am really interested in residential drafting and have been putting my resume out there but no luck so far. If it has to come to it i will just see how it goes doing the course next year anyway, might get a job through the tafe....

Cheers

Simon

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Personally I'd go to tafe and do it.

I say that because I've done a traineeship before and I was paid the bare minimum wage and I could barely support myself working full time as a trainee for a year.

Then after it was finished I went to tafe to do a pre-app, which was 1 year, It was sweet because It was 2 whole days a week and 3 half days. so I could have a part time job that payed really good while I studied.

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I know SFA about residential drafting, but if you need some tips on civil and structural (industrial) traineeships then drop me a PM as I may have some leads for you.

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Residential.. don't do it man! way way back in the day I started out doing some Architectural drafting and later moved onto Structural Detailing in the commercial sector.. dealing with architects AND engineers.. Mining & Resources is where it's at and you only have to deal with engineers where shit only serves a purpose and doesn't have to look pretty!

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shit doesnt look pretty in residential bubba its a contest between architects to put the most ueless crap on a perfectly good house thereby doubling the cost

id be nice to have some decent drafties in residential tho half the ones weve got cant even manage to check all their spec sheets off against each other

downpipe on tap on hotwatersystem on bunker light on powerpoint wtf

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im currently working as a drafty designing residential roofing

DO NOT do it, its not interesting in the slightest and you will want to move on pretty quickly

try and find a job in the mining or resource industry, thats where im headed next year

tafe then a traineeship is the way to go :)

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Thanks guys for all your thoughts,

Mining and Resources are obviously where the big bucks are atm so wat sort of drafty work does that industry have?

I know Residential is all about the houses and making things fit together basically but wat are some better off jobs? Scheduling and Surveying are some that i know of that can be moved onto after drafting. and to be quite honest dont really want to branch out of perth :spank: lol

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Well, I am mechanical so an example of what we do is design and lay out, say, materials handling systems (conveyors, crushers, ship loaders, that sort of thing) whereas the structural guys have to design and layout all the steel work that supports out gear, and the civil guys lay out and design all the groundworks, drainage, sewerage etc and supporting concrete (that supports the steelwork that supports my crap) if that makes any sense :)

and then you have the electrical and instrument blokes, but no one likes to talk about them :wave:

PM replied too as well. :spank:

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mate of mine is a drafty duno what type but he works for one of the boat mobs draws everything from the hulls right down to cabin fitouts does caravans and campers too he recons its pretty good work plenty of different stuff and he gets to do handson every now and then too

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I'm a third year trainee civil design draftsmen. Civil was definately the best choice I've made as there's a lot you can advance in such as detailed road design and all that (no its not just two lines!!). Doing some awesome 3d modelling and all that now :)

IMO I wouldn't do residential. As said before get into resource and energy, that's where the money and all the work is at.

My work (Worleyparsons) is always looking for new people including trainees. I would recommend doing the first semester full time at tafe then apply for your traineeship and do part time study while at work, most companies will reimburse the cost of your studies too!

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I'm a Structural/Mechanical Designer but I mainly do conceptual layouts at the moment, high level stuff, good money, minimal effort :P

The most FUN drafting job I've had was working for an Automotive R&D company.. mucho fun but they couldn't afford to pay the mining & resources rates.

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I have done the residential units of the drafting course at tafe (full time) and got a job drawing up commercial style buildings a lil bit after starting the commercial part of the course at tafe. i switched to part time tafe and get paid the same hourly rate while in class there as i get while in the office.

but...

I'd agree with Danni boi, go for the resource sector and do civil drafting. the resources boom is only just getting started and the houseing boom has stopped.

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i had a look around at several companies and reckon to at least get a better foot in the door before applying for a traineeship would be to start the tafe course as mentioned by a couple of yous above. cheers for the advice cos i was really needing it. ill look at the civil/structural drafting and hopefully commence that in 2009, finger crossed.

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