Police Correspondence

[mid life crisis]

if you want nene i will go too the meeting with you for some moral suport if some of the members write down what they want asked im sure between us we can get our point of view across let me know if ya need me cheers mid life crisis

[SLED]

no probs Nene, I'll help you out if I can..........and probably not a bad idea to get a couple of old fuglys in there with you

sorry MLC

[M I K E]

just browsing another forum and stumbled across THIS

*edit* might just quickly add, only linking it as i'm interested to know where lines etc are drawn in regards to the issues posted there

Edited January 15, 2009 by M I K E

[rhys5169]

lol nice work sapol

[RubyRS4]

just browsing another forum and stumbled across THIS

*edit* might just quickly add, only linking it as i'm interested to know where lines etc are drawn in regards to the issues posted there

He's a good story teller. I think he's exaggerating the story a bit.

[M I K E]

^^^ there is always 2 sides to the story though, so whats not to say he wasn't being a *richard cranium* before he got pulled over to make the pipe come off and they'd heard him. only the original poster knows this. i thought they were required to give you badge number and station when requested?

[RubyRS4]

^^^ there is always 2 sides to the story though, so whats not to say he wasn't being a *richard cranium* before he got pulled over to make the pipe come off and they'd heard him. only the original poster knows this. i thought they were required to give you badge number and station when requested?

Thats why I'm not a believer. He's saying he's so innocent and the cops pretty much assaulted him. Like I said, nice story. There's what he says and what the cops say, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

[SLED]

he got done because at 7500rpm (which is how cooler hoses tend to blow off) the cops heard him from 4 blocks away and saw all the smoke over roof tops from his burnout, not to mention half his tyre melted onto his rear guards and on top of that, probably got cocky

lol, I'm a good story teller............it is the NS kids after all

[ted180]

he got done because at 7500rpm (which is how cooler hoses tend to blow off) the cops heard him from 4 blocks away and saw all the smoke over roof tops from his burnout, not to mention half his tyre melted onto his rear guards and on top of that, probably got cocky

lol, I'm a good story teller............it is the NS kids after all

i was the one working on his car before the defect.

the cooler pipe was a bitch to get on, im surprised his mate even got it.

his o2 sensor isnt connected, so id say he wasnt thrashing it.

[rhys5169]

you dont have to be anywhere near 7500rpm for the cooler hose to blow off........

and i tend to beleive him, the amount of attitude police have been dishing out i wouldnt be suprised if he is telling the truth

[J - Rad]

I would actually like to congratulate Officer Neil for stepping forward and finally replying to the emails. I think even though he might be hard on some of us he has a job to do and I know I'll probably get defected soon enough aswell. But goodluck to the select few that are willing to try and make this work even if it does bite us in the ass again, atleast we can say we tried.

[mid life crisis]

no probs Nene, I'll help you out if I can..........and probably not a bad idea to get a couple of old fuglys in there with you

sorry MLC

no offence taking ..................cueball

[SLED]

haha, snap............I included myself in the fugly reference

[RubyRS4]

You old buggers really should grow up

[mid life crisis]

some of you are a bit young ..but remember when the police was pushing for a pay rise and wanted public suport the police union printed up a heap of stickers saying suport our local police .any car that displayed one of those stickers never got picked on .

i had a 327 chev in a lj torrie and that sticker stayed on the bumbar bar till it faded away lol took about 3 yrs but i never got pulled over but b4 the sticker it was a trip to the local police station every week lol .

maybe we need some we love niel stckers made lol lol couldnt hurt could it lol

[RubyRS4]

Something like: "SAU supports police anti-hoon action"?

[nisskid]

Stewy's story here (post 154) is why this meeting could be the start of something big, something important.

Look, i havent been pulled over, not even for breatho, in around EIGHT years.

& there are reasons for that Im sure.

But I want to support ppl like stewy here who have had a hard time, all for nothing, due to the misinformation that exists between adr rules, officials (law, police, regency) and the public; the end users. I really feel for rocky88 too...

here to help. Sled, hope you reconsider mate. One percisive comment or a little ingenious input could be just the thing that ensures cars like Vu (air filter), stewy and rocky88's situation dont happen again, whether thats RB engined Nissans or old VW Beetles. The general public would benefit, no BULLSHIT defect crap from the police but actual POLICE work.

you know, POLICE work. pull people over and suss THEM out not defect the car just because you 'think' you can.

here to help.

thanks mate. its good to know some people don't just jump on you saying oh the reason you get pulled over so much is u drive like a hoon etc, i guess a lot of it comes down to luck, i havent been that lucky this year (those 3 defects mentioned, + another one all within about 2-3 months driving this year)

its not the norm, but its a great example of the defect system failing.

[nisskid]

Something like: "SAU supports police anti-hoon action"?

just make sure you put them on ur side windows so they can see them from behind when ur sliding out of a corner

[SLED]

some of you are a bit young ..but remember when the police was pushing for a pay rise and wanted public support the police union printed up a heap of stickers saying suport our local police any car that displayed one of those stickers never got picked on .

yeah I do remember something about that. A cop that I went to high school with and trained at Woodlands with many years ago (whose dad was a well know polly) was involved in the shooting of a mentally disturbed male at Glenelg North 10 years ago (years after the bumper stickers were released).

Even though his actions were justifiable, this public police support disappeared very quickly and training for SAPOL intensified shortly thereafter. I don't believe Brenton is with SAPOL any longer.

It's on the public record so there's no issue with names..........here's a copy of the inquest if you could be stuffed reading through it:

INQUEST

[SandalsBoy]

ok i had a read....

So basically the police have no idea what they are doing? there is no regulations to say what is legal and what is not in SA?

Police have no training on any kind of defects and are not qualified to defect your car at all? what about highway patrol?

So your getting defected according to some rules that the police officer makes up at the time as he goes?

Wow !!

You guys need to stop wasting your time with the police and trying to fix the problem in the police force, thats NOT your job!!. Start going to court. rep yourself and prove to the judge that your car is legal within ADR's.

after you start winning the police might realise there is a problem going on when they start looking very stupid all the time.

can someone give me a explenation of what is actually going on? some info on whos been defected for what.. etc etc

This post is certainly looking in the right direction. I think this community should gather all the information regarding what sapol can and can not do and also what is and what is not an illegal modification.

If we gather correct information, people who are defected/fined etc when operating within the bounderies of the law can/should be able to put together a court case in front of a judge to have it overturned.

Now if you arent happy with what the law does or does not allow, then speaking with SAPOL will do nothing. This is a matter to discuss with your local MP. Police dont make the laws, they just enforce them. MPs make the laws.