Vipec V44 Boost Control?

[s2d4]

Ebay part number: 35A-AAA-DABA-1BA

http://www.macvalves.com/products/Three_Way/Small/35/35.pdf

page 3, 240Vac/60Hz or 220Vac/50Hz

so whats the verdict? Yay or nay?

[Mark-32]

Ebay part number: 35A-AAA-DABA-1BA

http://www.macvalves.com/products/Three_Way/Small/35/35.pdf

page 3, 240Vac/60Hz or 220Vac/50Hz

So is that the one i need?

[s2d4]

No, that is the one you bought.

So is that the one i need?

[Mark-32]

No, that is the one you bought.

I know nothing about electronics mante? So will it work?

[XRATED]

If it's rated AC only then no it probably wont work..

Just call Ray Hall (vi-pec) in Qld and get him to overnite the big valve to you.

Then post up the part number for mee... he he!

Cheers

Justin

PS who's tuning your vi-pec in tas???

[Mark-32]

If it's rated AC only then no it probably wont work..

Just call Ray Hall (vi-pec) in Qld and get him to overnite the big valve to you.

Then post up the part number for mee... he he!

Cheers

Justin

PS who's tuning your vi-pec in tas???

Ok so I ray Ray Hall and have the part numbers and prices.

Small mac valve - 35A-ACR-DDBROBA --- $105 plus gst

Large mac Valve - 225B-551BA ----------$265 plus gst

Seems pretty dam expensive especialy after I bought the small one off ebay for $12.50 with $3 postage.

Can anyone steer me in the right direction to buy one of these off a wholesaler, or even another type of new valve that will run twin wastegates?

Cheers

[s2d4]

The picture supplied by Vipec web site actually states Small mac valve as 35A-ACA-DDBA-1BA

This is the information I got from the MAC valve distributor:

Small -

"Your price for 35A-ACA-DDBA-1BA MOD T65C - $72.75"

Big -

"Valve is a 250B valve….. but it is a seriously big unit.

250B-551BA

$159.06 + GST ex-stock!"

I'll throw that number you got from ray with the distributor and see what he says.

Ok so I ray Ray Hall and have the part numbers and prices.

Small mac valve - 35A-ACR-DDBROBA --- $105 plus gst

Large mac Valve - 225B-551BA ----------$265 plus gst

Seems pretty dam expensive especialy after I bought the small one off ebay for $12.50 with $3 postage.

Can anyone steer me in the right direction to buy one of these off a wholesaler, or even another type of new valve that will run twin wastegates?

Cheers

Edited June 15, 2010 by s2d4

[Mark-32]

The picture supplied by Vipec web site actually states Small mac valve as 35A-ACA-DDBA-1BA

This is the information I got from the MAC valve distributor:

Small -

"Your price for 35A-ACA-DDBA-1BA MOD T65C - $72.75"

Big -

"Valve is a 250B valve….. but it is a seriously big unit.

250B-551BA

$159.06 + GST ex-stock!"

I'll throw that number you got from ray with the distributor and see what he says.

I just rang around and I can get one made up an a air supply shop for $111.

Thats with the part number I got off ray, the distrubuter in perth that I rang didnt have them in stock but he can make me one up.

Hopefully Its the right part number though as its different to the one you just stated,

[XRATED]

Thanks for the info guys... keep it comming on the big valve.

Cheers

J.

[Mark-32]

Thanks for the info guys... keep it comming on the big valve.

Cheers

J.

The number for the guy in perth I called is 0893615677

$111 bucks is alot better that $265 And thats with the number Ray gave me so Im hoping it should be right

[XRATED]

The number for the guy in perth I called is 0893615677

$111 bucks is alot better that $265 And thats with the number Ray gave me so Im hoping it should be right

Sweet... I'm on the other side of the world (working in Bahammas right now) so I'll get my distributor on it.

Thanks for the info guys...

Justin

[s2d4]

This is what the distributor said about the part number provided by ray for the small one (35A series):

"Not really, as the ACR is a manifold mounted (base mounted) unit."

As for the big one, the distributor said

"As is the 250 series is the base mounted model of the 225 series"

So Ray is using the base mounted versions for big and small. I am not sure what base mount actually means though.

This what the distributor recommends:

"I still think best valve for your application is the 117B!!! as previously quoted."

Let me guess, you spoke to Dan at pneumatic solutions?

Which air supply shop is making the 225B for you?

EDIT Apparently base mounted means this.

I just rang around and I can get one made up an a air supply shop for $111.

Thats with the part number I got off ray, the distrubuter in perth that I rang didnt have them in stock but he can make me one up.

Hopefully Its the right part number though as its different to the one you just stated,

Edited June 15, 2010 by s2d4

[s2d4]

Further comments by the distributor:

"The 117B is not better, just smaller and lighter, twice the flow rate of the 35A, where as the 225B is almost three times the flow rate of the 35A.

With the base mounted version you need to buy base as well, not really practical for a stand alone inline valve. More used for multiple valve applications!!

There are other ways we can go, that are still smaller than these with higher flow rates of the 35A"

[Mark-32]

Further comments by the distributor:

"The 117B is not better, just smaller and lighter, twice the flow rate of the 35A, where as the 225B is almost three times the flow rate of the 35A.

With the base mounted version you need to buy base as well, not really practical for a stand alone inline valve. More used for multiple valve applications!!

There are other ways we can go, that are still smaller than these with higher flow rates of the 35A"

So the 117b is ok to use with twin wastegates then? I might ring the guy back and see if he can do a price on the 117b?

[s2d4]

I've got the day off tomorrow so I'll pay him a visit. Will then take photos of their sizes as well as pricing of each of them.

So the 117b is ok to use with twin wastegates then? I might ring the guy back and see if he can do a price on the 117b?

[Mark-32]

I've got the day off tomorrow so I'll pay him a visit. Will then take photos of their sizes as well as pricing of each of them.

legend.

Thanks buddy

[s2d4]

Starting from left to right, 35A, 117B, then something slightly larger than the 225/250 series

117B with the required fittings, it's about the same size as the Apexi AVCR Boost Solenoid, Nothing crazy like the 225/250 series and has double the flow of the 35A valve. It didn't have the labels coz they didn't have one in stock but stored the solenoid and the valves so it was made up in less than a minute.

Total price was just shy of 80 including GST.

legend.

Thanks buddy

Edited June 16, 2010 by s2d4

[Mark-32]

Starting from left to right, 35A, 117B, then something slightly larger than the 225/250 series

117B with the required fittings, it's about the same size as the Apexi AVCR Boost Solenoid, Nothing crazy like the 225/250 series and has double the flow of the 35A valve. It didn't have the labels coz they didn't have one in stock but stored the solenoid and the valves so it was made up in less than a minute.

Total price was just shy of 80 including GST.

Good work mate, just the info i was after!

Was that from pneumatic solutions by the way?

if not can you tell me where so I can order one?

[XRATED]

Flow rate the may not be the issue... You don't really need to bleed that much volume of air off to maintain constant boost pressure.

Which valve has the greatest capacity for duty cycle? eg open and close the fastest?

Cheers

Justin

[s2d4]

Well, 35A is 6ms, 117B is 7ms and the 225/250 is 15ms to energise.

I assumed that is because of the flow rate required for twin waste gates as there wouldn't be a point for Ray Hall to go bigger if its just the solenoid.

Flow rate the may not be the issue... You don't really need to bleed that much volume of air off to maintain constant boost pressure.

Which valve has the greatest capacity for duty cycle? eg open and close the fastest?

Cheers

Justin

Edited June 16, 2010 by s2d4