NismoSTune Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 Bought a Koyo rad and mishimoto fans. The fans didn't fit right the first time so I send them back for another set. This time I measured the koyo rad which turns out is the issue. I had not planned on going koyo but it was suggested to me as a great product for a good price however it has fitment issues. The 2 mounts are off from eachother by 3/16s or so, to cause problems and the rad is physically taller now by over 1/4 inch. Have they changed designs or have moved to a mexican builder? Since the seller doesn't exist anymore, I'll have to remove the mishimoto name plate, do some drilling and patching (1/4 inch gap across the bottom) to install it without looking like knockoff puke. Anyone else have any issues with koyo as of late? Mount 1 Mount 2 Fitment still off/round/short on the bolt. Anyone got ideas? The supplier doesn't exist anymore (lack of staff) so I can't send the rad back. Should I: Cut the short bracket and have someone weld an extension (most likely look like crap). Forget the 2 top mounts and custom make 2 brackets on each side? I pay good money but sometimes I get these kind of issues. I'm not a mechanic, welder nor do I car to spend 400 hours getting a mildly powered car on the road. Sorry if I'm grumpy. Everything is delaying. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2d4 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 (edited) you may have purchased a knock off product. Mine fits with no modifications and still used the original engine fan on an r32 gtr. There were some mentions of the knock off products on the gtr uk forums. After a quick look on mishimoto website, the mishimoto fans were made for their mishimoto radiator with a core thickness of ~39-40mm from conversion. Edited June 12, 2010 by s2d4 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5289242 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSTune Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 you may have purchased a knock off product. Mine fits with no modifications and still used the original engine fan on an r32 gtr.There were some mentions of the knock off products on the gtr uk forums. After a quick look on mishimoto website, the mishimoto fans were made for their mishimoto radiator with a core thickness of ~39-40mm from conversion. The supplier of both parts was a highly respectable shop (Ztune out of Canada) with direct sales from these manufacturers. They've sold many of these parts without issues.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5289270 Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2d4 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 (edited) Ok fair enough, so they sold you a genuine radiator that won't fit and u can't return it cos they went out of business. Are you sure the electric fans are suited not only for the mishimoto radiators? Their website didn't mention that but they said its made for their radiators. I guess fans can be made to fit with the right fittings. As for your problem, sorry. I wouldn't know what to do in that situation. If its that far out and whatever u do from now will only make it look ugly, either live with it as it's functioning properly or buy one that actually fits. Edited June 12, 2010 by s2d4 Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5289325 Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2d4 Posted June 12, 2010 Share Posted June 12, 2010 I think I've just found the problem after having a quick look at mine. The welding locations on the koyorad are perfect for the stock fan shroud. The mishimoto fans are made for their own radiators. Therefore, the combination of these two facts means you have two parts that weren't made to fit each other. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5289339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSTune Posted June 12, 2010 Author Share Posted June 12, 2010 I think I've just found the problem after having a quick look at mine. The welding locations on the koyorad are perfect for the stock fan shroud. The mishimoto fans are made for their own radiators. Therefore, the combination of these two facts means you have two parts that weren't made to fit each other. I was told that they do fit together as both are oem fitment however it's off... Here are some pictures of the radiator. It seems legit to me as was the shop for the last 4 years. They've sold everything from Nismo, HKS, RIPS, tomei, you name it... They closed shop cause the income was less than the cost of running the place and business was going down hill when they started charging more (shops around here charge up to $200 per hr... Anyways, I'll make cut the mishimoto bracket and get a longer one put on (3/16th longer) or custom make 2 small L brackets on each side.... Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5289890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
s2d4 Posted June 13, 2010 Share Posted June 13, 2010 why not use the factory shroud and clutch fan? Do I need to take picture for you that the mounting points are off for a reason? Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5290031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
NismoSTune Posted June 13, 2010 Author Share Posted June 13, 2010 why not use the factory shroud and clutch fan? Do I need to take picture for you that the mounting points are off for a reason? The factory fan and shroud is heavier, more expensive to replace and is older technology. I like the electrics. I don't need pics thanks, I'm making my own mounts today. The fans are minor issues compared to my accusump I'm wondering where to put... was thinking of doing like the borg, up front but I dunno yet. Thanks for the help. Link to comment https://www.sau.com.au/forums/topic/324566-new-koyo-radiator-and-mishimoto-electric-fan-fitment-problems/#findComment-5291278 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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