Amg C36/43

[R-SPEC]

i dont get how this SMG works is it just tiptronic like in any other car or? why is it bad? does the car actually get off the throttle when you change up/down gears?

havent really looked into them im just avoiding them based on what i've read so far. i actually like the idea of a sequential box where its the same as manual just without a clutch pedal but if its bad and has problems etc then i'll stick to the 6sp

My good friend used to own a 1998 E36 M3 Anniversary edition convertible. Was the 3.2L 6 etc.....all it had was a cat back exhaust and it was making 258hp @ the rear wheels. That pulled a low low 13....

If you are really only going to consider an "M" BMW, then go for an E39 M5, power, luxury, style, everything

i love all m5s but even the e39 is out of my price range but i'll keep a look out for a super good deal, you never know...

[Ten Four]

I dont know... I just couldnt get it to shift quickly... And if you get off the throttle changing, it'll be even slower. Also, going up a gear, pull back and down a gear push forward

Edited August 13, 2010 by Ten Four

[warps]

Also, going up a gear, pull back and down a gear push forward

Exactly as it should be. Think of riding a motorbike.

The SMG's are also expensive to fix, and will need a full overhaul by now if not already done.

[scotty014]

Exactly as it should be. Think of riding a motorbike.

The SMG's are also expensive to fix, and will need a full overhaul by now if not already done.

agreed its the way it should be, my old r34 auto had tiptronic and to go up gears you push forward and it felt so wrong and not natural.

The SMG boxes is a manual gearbox with a normal manual clutch and all that the only difference is that the clutch is engaged and disengaged by electronics and a hydraulic pump.

here is a clip of the SMG box in action with the gear speed turned almost all the way up:

and another using the launch control that these gearboxes have:

[Ten Four]

^They are E46's. Much improved over E36s.

[scotty014]

^They are E46's. Much improved over E36s.

shit, thats my bad i was talking about e46's and you guys were talking about e36's. sorry about that.

And yes the SMG in the e36's isnt very good. it was greatly improved in the e46's which was the one i test drove. cant really say how the smg is in the e36's as i never test drove one so im only going by what ive been reading which is they are not very good at all.

on another note is it true that the e36 m3's have the same gearbox as the r34 gtr or is it the e46 m3's that have the same as the r34 gtr?

[Ten Four]

Evo ones do, same as supra TT too I believe?

[R-SPEC]

i seeeeeeeee

guess only way to see is to get test drives in both manual and smg and see what suits me best

aargh really want to call up some ads on carsales and organise test drives but i'd feel like a user as i cant actually buy the car till mine is sold lol

[Ten Four]

Heh, SMG won't be fun....

Had some guy drive over an hour to see mine today, thrash shit out of it then walk away -.-

old fart too

come now, swap GTT for evo M3

Edited August 15, 2010 by Ten Four

[R-SPEC]

but you got no sunroof

thats shit thats why i never give "test drives" until i get a deposit

Edited August 15, 2010 by R-SPEC

[Ten Four]

Yeah, but whatchugonnado? Old guy drives ages to see car... thought at least he'd be serious...

http://www.carsales.com.au/reviews/2010/me...rformance-21203

^Have a read

[R-SPEC]

mmm good read

"Just make sure you find a six-speed manual and forget all about this being the first SMG sequential-shifting BMW"

[Ten Four]

Oh yeah. For shits and giggles, http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi...=STRK:MESELX:IT

Edited August 15, 2010 by Ten Four

[syfon]

My friends 1994 E36 M3 3.0L (non-evo) ran a 13.2 second 1/4 mile completely 100% bog stock with the 5spd manual. That's a national record for a stock 3.0L E36 M3 hard-top....

[Deano 1]

that launch control is awsome!