Sway Bars (yes again, I searched)

[Roy]

What are the toe settings...tyre wear issues can often be toe as well.

And when you say understeer, are you sure your idea of a realistic corner entry speed isnt a bit optimistic:) Cars will always understeer if you rock up to a corner with too much speed and you are off the brake:(

[Sydneykid]

 I cant see how sway bars could really make THAT much difference.  Im more worried about tyre wear atm.  Im not too keen on wasting $270ish a tyre from chewing the OUTside.

OK some real world examples, on the R32 GTST, if we increase the anti roll to max from min (via the adjustable stabiliser bars) we can remove up to 2 degrees of negatve camber. We can reduce the roll so much that it lifts the inside front tyre off the ground on corner exit. You don't excessively wear the outside of the tyres then.

We run 8 degrees of caster, MINIMUM.

Note the inside tyre lift on full acceleration away from the apex at Murray Corner.

At your rate, 1 tyre saved = one adjustable stabiliser bar paid for. Sounds like an easy decision to me.

[dangerous_daveo]

I knew I forgot one setting. Toe would be from memory 1-2* toe in still. I belive we still need to put it back to 0*.

And sorry, I think before my tone came across wrong and sounded a little defencive, Im just getting a bit tired on many different views on set up, and its really starting to confuse me a bit.

I can get the sway bars pretty cheap, as in adjs about the rrp of non adjs, so I'll go them, see how it goes, as mentioned above, if its not working put the front on soft.

Could my problems also posbily be related to having the front spring/valving rates still being too high also? And is there a proper way of testing this? Such as under braking over bumps it seems quite bad (could be my imagination)

And I dont think its my corner entry speed, as it just keeps understeering. And it would seem to have almost 'power' understeer (only way I can think to describe it) like for whats ment to be a 'ex drift car' its not overly drift friendly anymore.

[Sydneykid]

I knew I forgot one setting.  Toe would be from memory 1-2* toe in still.  I belive we still need to put it back to 0*.

And sorry, I think before my tone came across wrong and sounded a little defencive, Im just getting a bit tired on many different views on set up, and its really starting to confuse me a bit.

I can get the sway bars pretty cheap, as in adjs about the rrp of non adjs, so I'll go them, see how it goes, as mentioned above, if its not working put the front on soft.

Could my problems also posbily be related to having the front spring/valving rates still being too high also?  And is there a proper way of testing this?  Such as under braking over bumps it seems quite bad (could be my imagination)

And I dont think its my corner entry speed, as it just keeps understeering.  And it would seem to have almost 'power' understeer (only way I can think to describe it)  like for whats ment to be a 'ex drift car' its not overly drift friendly anymore.

TOE IN!!!!!!!!!!!!! :confused:

That's the first thing I change, zero or a little toe out will make a noticeable difference to the steering response. Toe in also wears the outside of the tyres.

What is the front spring rate? If it is over 400lbs per inch (7kgmm) then it is too high.