Timing Belt Replacement

[Red Sky II]

My 98 Stagea is nearing 100,000kms and so looking at replacing the timing belt and water pump as well as a general service.

I have been quoted by a Nissan dealer (in Perth) that to do a basic service (96,000kms service), change the timing belt and water pump would be around $800. Is this too expensive or about right for the work to be done.

I don't have the abilitiy to do the replacement myself, unfortunately.

I assume that I shoudl also get the bearings and seals replaced at the same time (following advice from other threads).

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Cheers, Al

[ATTN]

Yeah me too im also up for service my series II skyline just hit 100000km on the clock, i got a quote at autosport at Kirrawee, Sydney and they said around $1000 FULL service?????

i guess you get what you pay for

[Sydneykid]

Hi guys, as previously posted I only replaced the timing belt. There was NOTHING wrong with the water pump or the tensioner or the idler pulleys. There was no seal that needed replacing. I have done 5 Skylines and never replaced a water pump, tensioner, idler pulley.... I just needed to do the cam belt. I still have one that has done 180,000 k's and it still has the original water pump, tensioner idler etc etc

The 100,000 k service is "replace cam belt" not replace water pump, not replace cambelt tensioner. By all means get them to check it, but 99% of the time it won't need replacing.

[Red Sky II]

Thanks SydneyKid

So really it is a case of replace the other parts if they need to be replaced but otherwise there is no real point. I guess the other posts are all thinking replace everything in the one hit since the labour cost is high to pull it apart.

Just going to get the basic service now at 96,000kms and then get the timing belt changed next service and they can check the other items - if they need replacing will do so otherwise leave them.

Cheers, Al

[ian]

Thanks SydneyKid

So really it is a case of replace the other parts if they need to be replaced but otherwise there is no real point.  I guess the other posts are all thinking replace everything in the one hit since the labour cost is high to pull it apart.

Just going to get the basic service now at 96,000kms and then get the timing belt changed next service and they can check the other items - if they need replacing will do so otherwise leave them.

Cheers, Al

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Having seen what a broken timing belt can do :-( I suspect the other way around would be good.. ie I tend to change them before 100,000k's, not after..

But I agree with Sydneykid, the other stuff virtually never needs changing - so shop around and get a good price for the belt change (I'd guess that somewhere in the $400's would be about right...).

Edit: Just in case you don't have it, I've attached the R34 maintenance handbook - I think it would be a safe assumption to apply the same to the stagea.

Ian

R34_Scheduled_Maintenance_Handbook.pdf

[Red Sky II]

Thanks for the advice guys

[familka gtr]

My advice .If You change the timing belt always change seals.They cost few bucks and if they start leaking then You have to take everything off ,timing belt as well.Bit big job to replace seals.

If You ask in Japan they always in 99% changed water pump with timing belt.Probably because is a easy job with timing belt ,and if You pull out WP and open/brake then You can see turbine condition .In some cases is good to change specialy in hot areas.Usually are WP changed when they are leaking ,but its not always case to change WP.

And tensioner pully depence how much it cost.If its not expensive up to Yu...

Timing belt manufacturer recomended timing belt change on 80000kms.

Edited August 31, 2005 by familka gtr

[Ska]

When my old S1 R33 had this done, cost me $1000, but tensioner was stuffed, yes stuffed, did not spin at all, i still have it and got the N1 pump for $50 so thought why not, BUT I also had a tune and a full serivce and some other bits and peices done too.

[Sydneykid]

My advice .If You change the timing belt always change seals.They cost few bucks and if they start leaking then You have to take everything off ,timing belt as well.Bit big job  to replace seals.

If You ask in Japan they always in 99% changed water pump with timing belt.Probably because is a easy job with timing belt  ,and if You pull out WP and open/brake  then You can see turbine condition .In some cases is good to change specialy in hot areas.Usually are WP changed when they are leaking ,but its not always case to change WP.

And tensioner pully depence how much it cost.If its not expensive up to Yu...

Timing belt manufacturer recomended timing belt change on 80000kms.

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The thing to always keep in mind is that good Japanese mechanics charge like brain surgeons. And bad Japanese mechanics are hopeless and charge like lawyers. The costs of parts is cheap compared to the cost of labour, that's why the Japanese have so much bolt on stuff. It lowers the cost if you have a good mechanic and saves the stuffups if you have a bad one.

That is simply not the case in Australia, so I don't buy parts I don't need just to maybe save on labour later. I don't reckon it's cheaper, because where do you stop? If I change the water pump, then I should change the camshaft oil seals. I should change the cam cover gaskets too. While I have the camshafts out changing the oil seals, I should change the valve stem seals. etc etc

When I change the cambelt I check the other stuff and if its OK, then I just change the cambelt.

cheers