Haha, yeah i dont want to get into an argument either mate. And i have to agree to disagree, u are quite correct though im merely outlining the fact that there are different ways to go about things and spending a heap of cash is not one of them. Tell me the cheapest way to get an NA 33 into the 12 second bracket, and ill tell u i did it with less than 6g's Read my thread "Time for NA power..." although most people said it couldnt be done i did and it now has been, if i invested more time into the project with relatively few more mods this car would run into the low 12's possibly high elevens though circumstances lead to me loosing interest in the project and the beast is now for sale. The new project is already a dead paper weight in the garage, 33 vspec, with blown turbos and alot of legal concerns need to be sorted regarding my warranty on the vehicle and repairs before any development can go ahead but this car will run 10's or relatively close with about the same amount of money o have spent on my previous project. Stay tuned.